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CardinalFJ60
07-09-2008, 10:13 PM
Great run! sure beats workin', EH!? Thanks Isaac for leading us on a great run. One of my favorite quotes was from Corsair..."I want the line where I DON'T do a wheelstand"...see pics below.

more to follow - but here are a few.

Isaac is first look close...wheel stand - that's about half as high as he was. Ken gettin' all flexy where most of us did big ol'wheelstands. and Corsair "not" doing a wheelstand.

CardinalFJ60
07-09-2008, 10:15 PM
here's Romer showing off his 80 series flexi-ness.

CardinalFJ60
07-09-2008, 10:20 PM
three on the ground ain't bad.

wesintl
07-09-2008, 11:05 PM
Couple pics... thanks for taking the lead issac!

AxleIke
07-09-2008, 11:23 PM
First of all, can anyone confirm that Matt Ralston made it home okay? I kept my eyes out on the way back, but didn't see any green 40's on the side of the road.

Thanks for the great run guys, It was a great day, and a fun run.

Thank you for asking me to lead as well. I hope it was okay. Hard to balance going fast enough to keep people from getting bored, and slow enough as to not leave people behind.

We didn't lose anyone, so I guess that is something.

Sorry for the wheelstands those who didn't want it. I thought I had 40's figured out, but next time, I will do the LWB guys, and let a more experienced 40 spotter do the shorties.

I tried to get Jeff up that right side to keep his rear out of the deepest part of the hole, but it still lifted sky high.

Ah well, it wasn't really hairy, but I like people to feel comfortable.

Anyway, had a blast! Thanks again.

AxleIke
07-09-2008, 11:27 PM
Oh, and the dern tub is okay. But it did leak a bit. Turned out to be a leaky threaded coupler. Little teflon tape and good as new. Landlord is going to fix the celing later, as we caught it soon enough and I fanned it a bit to dry it out.

Red_Chili
07-10-2008, 07:28 AM
For a minute there I was trying to figure out the connection between a 4Runner and a 'tub', wasn't sure where the threaded coupler was on a 40... :lmao:

Be sure to check out the post on Slaughterhouse in the Land Use forum!!!

subzali
07-10-2008, 07:35 AM
Well it doesn't look like I'm going to get fired, so I guess that's a good thing...

Fun run! Thanks everybody! It was good to get on Slaughterhouse again!

Romer
07-10-2008, 07:40 AM
Great run as always. Great group of people.

Jacket
07-10-2008, 08:42 AM
I made it home....barely. I figured it was better to take my chances in the daylight hours than risk a tranny failure at 9 or 10 pm.

Once I pulled back onto 285, I shifted it into 4th, and stayed that way until I was about 5 miles from home (took the long way - all interstate). As long as I kept it in gear, it mostly kept going. There were some VERY weird noises coming from the tranny box - lots of whining, chirping, and other metallic noises singing from down below. That and the occasional loss of forward power.:rolleyes:

I'm thinking a new 4 spd might be in my future.....

Thanks to Crash, Dean and Redfox for accompanying me out!

Jacket
07-10-2008, 08:47 AM
Oh yea - not too much in the way of pics.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/mralsto/slaughterhouse_0708/IMG_0779.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/mralsto/slaughterhouse_0708/IMG_0781.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/mralsto/slaughterhouse_0708/IMG_0784.jpg

jjhancock
07-10-2008, 08:53 AM
I made it home....barely. I figured it was better to take my chances in the daylight hours than risk a tranny failure at 9 or 10 pm.

Once I pulled back onto 285, I shifted it into 4th, and stayed that way until I was about 5 miles from home (took the long way - all interstate). As long as I kept it in gear, it mostly kept going. There were some VERY weird noises coming from the tranny box - lots of whining, chirping, and other metallic noises singing from down below. That and the occasional loss of forward power.:rolleyes:

I'm thinking a new 4 spd might be in my future.....

Thanks to Crash, Dean and Redfox for accompanying me out!


Matt,

I've got the tranny that came out of my 81 fj40 when the sm420 went in if you need it. The sm420 was swapped in by the PO so I have no idea of it's condition, but I was told that it worked great. PM me if you're interested. I believe it's an H41, not sure if that would work with your setup but I know I don't really have much need for it.

-Justin

MDH33
07-10-2008, 09:49 AM
I made it home....barely. I figured it was better to take my chances in the daylight hours than risk a tranny failure at 9 or 10 pm.

So what caused the tranny issues? Suddenly decided to start disintegrating? :(

wesintl
07-10-2008, 10:02 AM
Matt,

I've got the tranny that came out of my 81 fj40 when the sm420 went in if you need it. The sm420 was swapped in by the PO so I have no idea of it's condition, but I was told that it worked great. PM me if you're interested. I believe it's an H41, not sure if that would work with your setup but I know I don't really have much need for it.

-Justin

Problem is that bolts to a split case. Unless you have a split case and deal with the parking brake that won't work.

I didn't look at it but either the clutch isn't working right or maybe the shift fork is worn. Normally h42's are pretty bombproof

Hulk
07-10-2008, 10:20 AM
Glad I was able to hook up with you guys near the end. The new pizza joint, Pier 49, was quite good and the pizzas were much cheaper than last year!

subzali
07-10-2008, 10:29 AM
Matt,

I've got the tranny that came out of my 81 fj40 when the sm420 went in if you need it. The sm420 was swapped in by the PO so I have no idea of it's condition, but I was told that it worked great. PM me if you're interested. I believe it's an H41, not sure if that would work with your setup but I know I don't really have much need for it.

-Justin

Did it have a low 1st gear? I would guess it's an H42 splined to match the split case, like Hulk has. Seems to me that there's a 4 spd tranny or two floating around the club, maybe Nakman and/or Timmbuck2 have one/some? :confused:

Matt - Like Zepp said last night (and I agree), if it were his truck he'd pull the tranny hump off (pull the seats, gas tank, etc.) and take the top of the tranny off to look inside and see what's going on. That or swap it with a good 4 spd and THEN pull it apart to look at it ;)

Glad you got home okay!

timmbuck2
07-10-2008, 10:35 AM
I *do* have a 4 speed tranny in my garage.

I also have your handheld Ham radio...guess you guys could not hear me once I went around the corner?? When will you be around?

T

subzali
07-10-2008, 10:39 AM
Timm, I'm around this afternoon to pick up my radio and will text you. The rubber ducky doesn't reach all that far, I didn't hear from you again after you left, not sure where you were when you tried to call us, but the geography back there isn't exactly line-of-site, especially once you crest the hill...

nakman
07-10-2008, 10:59 AM
Thanks for sharing the pics, guys, did it get harder? I don't remember mandatory wheel stands, or needing straps..

and I've got at least one available 4 speed as well, but I believe they come with the same split case issue (they're from a 60).

jjhancock
07-10-2008, 11:55 AM
Did it have a low 1st gear? I would guess it's an H42 splined to match the split case, like Hulk has. Seems to me that there's a 4 spd tranny or two floating around the club, maybe Nakman and/or Timmbuck2 have one/some? :confused:

Matt - Like Zepp said last night (and I agree), if it were his truck he'd pull the tranny hump off (pull the seats, gas tank, etc.) and take the top of the tranny off to look inside and see what's going on. That or swap it with a good 4 spd and THEN pull it apart to look at it ;)

Glad you got home okay!

I guess it is an H42 then. Either way, if somebody needs one mine is up for grabs as it's just taking up space in my garage!

wesintl
07-10-2008, 01:14 PM
aside from having a bruised shoulder from constantly bouncing into the A pillar and needing to see a chiropracter the stock 64 with open diffs didn't loose any hub caps and made it through unassisted. Although, I did think the crazy jeep guy was going to attack me. :hill: He flipped out when he saw my old beast. I was secretly hoping he was pointing at Dean ;)

MDH33
07-10-2008, 01:27 PM
Ok, we need details about the crazy jeep guy, sounds like a funny story. :D

subzali
07-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Well he liked Zepp, Wes, Zettl (in his 40), and Dave Brown, but he didn't like me or Ralston IIRC - go figure :rolleyes:

the wheelstands have a bypass to the left around a tree - I'd say it's really the last obstacle on the trail. At least the last memorable one. It's getting somewhat dug out so that's why we went so high (especially the shorty 40s).

There were some pictures in this thread (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=4145&page=3") of Dave and Kim Brown doing wheelstands, but it looks like they're gone now and there's just the pictures of the maroon 80 on page 3 at the same location. We all drove up the big hill no problems, I haven't been on that since I've had the locker and tires, what a difference!

(`._.[xtr3m3]._.)
07-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Ok, we need details about the crazy jeep guy, sounds like a funny story. :D

Seriously! Did anyone catch "Crazy Jeep Guy" on tape?

corsair23
07-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Sorry for the wheelstands those who didn't want it. I thought I had 40's figured out, but next time, I will do the LWB guys, and let a more experienced 40 spotter do the shorties.

I tried to get Jeff up that right side to keep his rear out of the deepest part of the hole, but it still lifted sky high.

It is ALL good :D - I figured now was the time to do it when the family was at home safe :hill:. I wasn't too worried till the engine died and then I looked over at Subzali and he was "gently" pointing passenger side :eek:. All I needed was for the crazy Jeep guy to show up and jump on my front bumper for me :thumb:.

Seriously though, the spot was fine and knowing what was coming kept the skidmarks away :lmao:. Glad to hear the "tub issue" wasn't as bad as it sounded.

I made it home....barely. I figured it was better to take my chances in the daylight hours than risk a tranny failure at 9 or 10 pm.

Good to hear!! Good call on getting out early.

Although, I did think the crazy jeep guy was going to attack me. :hill:

That dude was WILD :eek:. He yelled nice "Jeep" to me which I relayed to the group over the CB which he overheard over Steve's CB speaker. He came running back up to me apologizing for calling my rig a Jeep and then kept :blah: on.

corsair23
07-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Thanks for sharing the pics, guys, did it get harder? I don't remember mandatory wheel stands, or needing straps...


Seems about the same as last year :confused:. I've only been on it twice though and last year it was with the LX. I avoided the wheel stand line with the family last year after watching Nemo catch MAJOR air :eek:. You pretty much have to put yourself over there or not be paying attention as you can drive right around to the left.

I find the tippy, off camber, sections to be worse but I don't like tippy :). I actually managed to rub my entire hardtop along an aspen tree at one spot trying to get less tippy :doh:

Hopefully I'll get my pics up tonight!

Nick F.
07-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Some quick pics. all at wheelie rock:lmao::lmao:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/NFerrando/DSCF0154-1.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/NFerrando/DSCF0156.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/NFerrando/DSCF0157-1.jpg

AxleIke
07-10-2008, 09:16 PM
Nick, sorry I missed your truck going through there man! :(

But, I redeemed my self partially by catching Rachel!

Romer
07-10-2008, 09:54 PM
That's my girl:bowdown:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/NFerrando/DSCF0154-1.jpg

Nick F.
07-10-2008, 10:51 PM
Nick, sorry I missed your truck going through there man! :(

But, I redeemed my self partially by catching Rachel!

No problem man, I know what my truck looks like:hill:

corsair23
07-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Not too many pics but here are some of what I did take....

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MountainGoat
07-11-2008, 07:22 AM
I just wanted to let you guys know that I had a great time. It was my first run and I was very impressed with the whole thing. I've never wheeled with more than 2 other rigs, so I need a little practice getting used to the group approach, but I really liked it. It's nice to be able to help out - and to know there is help available if I need it. I REALLY need to get a radio.

I still have a sh*t eating grin just from seeing all the cool Toyotas in my back yard!

Hopefully I'll get voted in at the August meeting :bowdown: (shameless plug).

And FWIW I thought Isaac did a fine job leading. Thanks man!

CardinalFJ60
07-11-2008, 09:42 AM
Sorry for my lame joke about jeff not wanting to do a wheel stand, I didn't mean to imply any lack of competanceor anything ...It was only funny to me because I knew both you and Jeff were more than capable to make sure nothing bad happened.

AS a matter of fact, without Isaac spotting me through two areas, I wouldn't have been able to navigate them. :thumb: More specifically, that wheelstand place had me a little worried, but you explained clearly that the truck would fell really light and would be weird, things are fine...but throttle through it. Perfect explanation, and things went smoothly. thanks!!!

Thanks again for leading this run!

-s :cheers:

corsair23
07-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Sorry for my lame joke about jeff not wanting to do a wheel stand, I didn't mean to imply any lack of competanceor anything ...It was only funny to me because I knew both you and Jeff were more than capable to make sure nothing bad happened.

:D - It is ALL good Shawn. I got a major :lmao: out of that because that is exactly what I told Isaac at first and then quietly told him a big wheel lift wouldn't be all that bad though :cool:, so Isaac put me exactly where I wanted to be :thumb:. It was all good till my "capability" stalled the rig right in the hole :eek: :hill:. Being the last through the obstacle gave me reassurance that no matter how "funny" it felt, everything would be ok.

Now, if I had been in Rachel's 4Runner...That is some MAJOR air there!

It is interestesting to see how each rig reacts differently to the same obstacle. Romer in his LX just flexed right through there; Art is his 60 gets the wheel lift but appears pretty level; the FJ40s get a wheel lift and seem a little less level; but Rachel in her 4Runner oh my :eek:. She can wheel :bowdown:

bh4rnnr
07-11-2008, 07:56 PM
Not too many pics but here are some of what I did take....

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so did you guys run into Jeff running the trail backwords or something:confused::hill:

Looks like another great run.

Good to see your using your camera there Cardinal:beer::beer:

Rzeppa
07-12-2008, 12:09 AM
Thank you for asking me to lead as well. I hope it was okay. Hard to balance going fast enough to keep people from getting bored, and slow enough as to not leave people behind.

You did awesome! Thanks Ike!

I tried to get Jeff up that right side to keep his rear out of the deepest part of the hole, but it still lifted sky high.

Dude, I was GOING for the biggest wheelstand possible! Or are you talking about Jeff Zettl? We were both in shorty 40s :-)

AxleIke
07-12-2008, 12:11 AM
Jeff Zettl.

I don't recall giving you a spot, as I figured you didn't need it.

Only spotted people if they wanted it.

Rzeppa
07-12-2008, 12:15 AM
Problem is that bolts to a split case. Unless you have a split case and deal with the parking brake that won't work.

I didn't look at it but either the clutch isn't working right or maybe the shift fork is worn. Normally h42's are pretty bombproof

There are at (least) 3 different H41s, and of course none of them came on USA spec cruisers. Early mates to a "solid" t-case, later mates to a split case, and there is a version that mates to a B series diesel with solid case, more splines (21?) than the 16 spline gasser. I have one of those on the floor of my garage.

Rzeppa
07-12-2008, 12:23 AM
Seems about the same as last year :confused:. I've only been on it twice though and last year it was with the LX. I avoided the wheel stand line with the family last year after watching Nemo catch MAJOR air :eek:.

Heh...From last year:

Rzeppa
07-12-2008, 12:30 AM
so did you guys run into Jeff running the trail backwords or something

Nick and I did the hill before the rest of the group made it into the meadow, then drove back down and parked, waiting to see what was going on with Matt's tranny.

There was nothing obvious from the outside, he's going to have to pull the top off, or even the whole thing off and dig in to see what the shifting issue was. Clutch was operating normally, shifter retainer was intact and installed. I tried shifting it and got nothing. It finally went into gear for no reason, and he got off the trail with an entourage of Steve, Dave, and Dean. Glad he made it home okay!