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TOTONKA
08-11-2008, 01:37 AM
Bulges on Tire Sidewall
http://i34.tinypic.com/2l97cb4.jpg


http://i38.tinypic.com/j5gi3a.jpg
DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOUR TRUCK

There are over (12) tire brands currently on RECALL that your
local Offroad 4WP Store and other Tire Companies have sold.




MUST SEE Cool Video Below:
Press Play (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897)
Press Play 2 (http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=244981)


Over 48,000 Pro Comp A/T LT265/75R16 are being recalled,
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 08T013000 (CLICK) (http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/results.cfm?rcl_id=08T013000&searchtype=quicksearch&summary=true&refurl=rss)
Click (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2008/T/RCDNN-08T013-1641.pdf)



Reasons:: A Bulge Can Occur in the Lower Sidewall on the
White Sidewall Which Indicates the Existence of a
Separation Between Two Lower Sidewall Components.




The Cooper Tire Co. manufactures just some of
the following 183,602 Units Affected on the RECALL List below,

Pro Comp Xtreme A/T
Cooper Discoverer S/T,
Dean Mud Terrain Radial SXT
Durango Radial XTR,
Mastercraft Courser C/T,
Dick Cepek Radial F-C II,
Mesa C/T,
Tempra Trailcutter Radial RT.


If this is your case, then the local 4 Wheel Parts Performance
Store is required by law to replace them ABSOLUTELY FOR FREE


No Additional Charges for Balance and Rotation, etc.,
as you already have payed for these services.

COOPER TIRE QUALITY (http://www.swindolllaw.com/news/CooperTire.htm)
COOPER TIRE REPUTATION (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE4DE1F39F934A25756C0A9649C8B63)


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Furthermore, the local Offroad 4WP Store has sold you any
Defective Automotive Parts, some of which may be

Defective Lights,
Defective Tires,
Defective Shocks,
Defective Seats
Defective Wheels
Defective Suspension


Basically Any Automotive Equipment

and Fail to Refund or Exchange these products,
then you could file a complaint with (ALL) the following
agencies below that will assist you in obtaining a refund:



Complaint Agency 1 (http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm)
Complaint Agency 2 (http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/mailform.htm)
Complaint Agency 3 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=division+of+consumer+affairs+&btnG=Search)
Complaint Agency 4 (http://da.co.la.ca.us/cpd/forms.htm)
Complaint Agency 5 (http://welcome.bbb.org/)


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Uncle Ben
08-11-2008, 07:52 AM
Yup....nothing like a good rubber! :eek: :lmao:

Romer
08-11-2008, 08:33 AM
Thats a very interesting first post followed by a few posts acting like your one of the club.

No introduvtion or anything about where you are coming from or why you posted that here. It might be helpful to some.

Very interesting

Red_Chili
08-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Darn, I went with those darn quality Goodyear MT/Rs again.

I could've gone with Coopers and gotten a new lease on (tread) life! :lmao:

Rock Dog
08-11-2008, 11:15 AM
Darn, I went with those darn quality Goodyear MT/Rs again.

I could've gone with Coopers and gotten a new lease on (tread) life! :lmao:

You mean if you survived to this point....:rolleyes:

The Interco tires are big and hard to balance, but have worked well!

TOTONKA
08-12-2008, 06:34 PM
true how true, but

BFG's handle a little better in the rain



Here's a LINK for Cooper Tire Reputation and quality
COOPER TIRE Quality and Reputation (http://www.swindolllaw.com/news/CooperTire.htm)

Even More Good Stuff (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE4DE1F39F934A25756C0A9649C8B63)






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Hayes
08-12-2008, 06:52 PM
It's called an 'impact seperation'. I see them all the time at work (I'm a tire guy). It happens when you hit things. Not saying there isn't something wrong with the tires, just that it isn't as uncommon as you might think.

bigbluefj
08-12-2008, 09:44 PM
i had two bump's like that on my mixer truck once ripped the fender pretty good ....

TOTONKA
08-15-2008, 02:10 AM
i had two bump's like that on my mixer truck once ripped the fender pretty good ....

http://i35.tinypic.com/n5ld1h.jpg

Red_Chili
08-15-2008, 08:43 AM
Yeeeeeeeeeee..... somebody deflate that thing FAST! Or shoot it with a .300WSM from a safe distance.

Reminds me of a zit I had once in high school...

corsair23
08-15-2008, 05:23 PM
Reminds me of a zit I had once in high school...

That was a BIG zit then Bill :eek: :lmao:

TOTONKA
08-17-2008, 10:37 AM
http://i37.tinypic.com/10cubmg.jpg

bigbluefj
08-17-2008, 11:38 AM
Dammmm

TOTONKA
08-20-2008, 06:39 AM
Dammmm

Press Play (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897)
Press Play 2 (http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=244981)

http://i36.tinypic.com/124yqed.jpg

powderpig
08-20-2008, 06:54 AM
Well kit is sad what happened with the first video. That said, the tire you show above has had it pressure run low for a long time, enough so that the side wall went.
Old tires are one thing, not keeping up on tire pressure is another.

TOTONKA
08-20-2008, 09:14 AM
Well kit is sad what happened with the first video. That said, the tire you show above has had it pressure run low for a long time, enough so that the side wall went.
Old tires are one thing, not keeping up on tire pressure is another.

MANUFACTURING DEFECT, Cracks in the Sidewall.......on Pro Comp M/T

When your family rides on these tires, there are no substitutions

http://i33.tinypic.com/6e1b2q.jpg


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leiniesred
08-20-2008, 09:22 AM
I thought exactly the same thing as Powerderpig when I saw the picture of the 2 piece tire.
(For split rims maybe? *joking*)

Also, I noticed there isn't much tread left on that MT. It's a well used old tire.

powderpig
08-20-2008, 10:21 AM
I call BS on the side wall. You may of gotten them to warranty, but who ever was driving on it was at fault. People need to take responsiablity for there actions instead of blaming it on a maker of goods.

nakman
08-20-2008, 10:32 AM
kind of neat to learn the date code on tires (first video), I didn't know that.

corsair23
08-20-2008, 06:28 PM
kind of neat to learn the date code on tires (first video), I didn't know that.

x2...But how do you know if a tire was made in the 90's or the '00's? At one point in the story, IIRC, they showed what they claimed was a 12 yr old tire made in '96. How does a person know if the xx6 indicates a 1996 date or a 2006 date? More importantly, if I were to go out and buy tires today, how would I know I'm getting a tire made 2008 and not 1998 :confused:

Everyone got out and check their tires now :eek:

powderpig
08-20-2008, 07:40 PM
Yes I did. The new michleans on the runner has 3made in the last year, one is 2.5 years old and the other is 3.2 years old. I am thinking of writing Michlean about this, then discount's manager in Boulder.
When I bought the Generals last spring for the cruiser, I did not look. But today, all 4 tires are made with 3 months of each other, thee made in the same month.

Hayes
08-20-2008, 08:05 PM
x2...But how do you know if a tire was made in the 90's or the '00's? At one point in the story, IIRC, they showed what they claimed was a 12 yr old tire made in '96. How does a person know is the xx6 indicates a 1996 date or a 2006 date? More importantly, if I were to go out and buy tires today, how would I know I'm getting a tire made 2008 and not 1998 :confused:

Everyone got out and check their tires now :eek:



The DOT is either 11 numbers or 12 numbers. If there are 3 numbers at the end 126, that means it was made in the 12th week of 1996. If there are 4 numbers 1206, that means it was made the 12th week of 2006.

TOTONKA
08-20-2008, 08:47 PM
I thought exactly the same thing as Powerderpig when I saw the picture of the 2 piece tire.
(For split rims maybe? *joking*)

Also, I noticed there isn't much tread left on that MT. It's a well used old tire.

IS THAT A BULGE IN YOUR TIRE OR YOU HAPPY TO SEE HER
http://i35.tinypic.com/2wgatso.jpg

Red_Chili
08-21-2008, 10:07 AM
Very close to NFFW and not appreciated.

10283

FJBen
08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Just checked mine. 2406 on all 4 of them. I need to check the wifes when I got home as we just bought hers a few months ago.

I'm really anal about tires. If they are at half tread, they are gone. Always check tire pressure and that. Guess I got it from my dad. he manages a trucking company...so tires are quite the $$$ venture for him.

nakman
08-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Very close to NFFW and not appreciated.

10283

Agreed, Tonka you're definitely pushing the limits here... reel it in a little please. We appreciate the tire discussion though..

rover67
08-21-2008, 01:49 PM
The argument that my BFG's were on backorder last year is apparantly true... they were all 4 stamped as being made about a month before I bought them...

rover67
08-21-2008, 01:52 PM
Very close to NFFW and not appreciated.

10283

Yeah, it'd be nice to not have top worry about somebody looking over my shoulder as i read these threads..

MDH33
08-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Doesn't Anyone think these tire pics look a little too photo-chopped? :rolleyes:

Look what happened to my 40 this afternoon! :eek: ;) :D

powderpig
08-21-2008, 03:56 PM
So any how I went into Discount today to ask about what the policy on how old a tire they sell. I had a real nice young man named Nick help me. According to Nick, it was a DOT standard of 10 years for tire replacement. He could not produce this in written form for me. He did hand me a guide from Discount Tire that showed me the warranty period for each of the major manufactures they sell. Most only warranty the tires for 6 years from the date of tire manufacture(not when the tire is sold). All the best car companies recommend tire replacement at 6 years. Most tire manufactures recommend tire replacement at 10 years.
So the outcome for me, I get the two older tires replaced free with the tires they have in stock that are made in the last couple of months. Nick appoligized for the mistake on the part of Discount not makeing sure the tires were current. He thinks Michelin will take the tires back. I have a appointment to get the new tires on the 4/runner on monday.

powderpig
08-21-2008, 03:58 PM
Man Martin that looks real cartoonish. Glad you were not hurt when it created the bubble.

TOTONKA
08-21-2008, 04:44 PM
Agreed, Tonka you're definitely pushing the limits here... reel it in a little please. We appreciate the tire discussion though..


I apologise, I HOPE THE VIDEOS WERE USEFUL

i'll start a new topic

MDH33
08-21-2008, 04:49 PM
Man Martin that looks real cartoonish. Glad you were not hurt when it created the bubble.


Photo-chopped. ;)

corsair23
08-21-2008, 04:50 PM
The DOT is either 11 numbers or 12 numbers. If there are 3 numbers at the end 126, that means it was made in the 12th week of 1996. If there are 4 numbers 1206, that means it was made the 12th week of 2006.

Thanks :thumb: - I must have missed that fact in the video or they left that tidbit of information out...


Doesn't Anyone think these tire pics look a little too photo-chopped? :rolleyes:

Look what happened to my 40 this afternoon! :eek: ;) :D

I had the same thought when looking at the picture of the SSR. But it looks like the "bulge" ripped off part of the front bumper as well :hill:

Photoshop or not, at least I learned about the date code. I doubt my Toyos are old (forgot to check last night :doh:) but I'm not sure about my MTRs on the 40 or the Dunflops on my :Princess:'s 80.

TOTONKA
08-21-2008, 05:14 PM
Photo-chopped. ;)

I could tell on that one, the tread is stretched on the bottom left

http://i36.tinypic.com/207kw9x.gif

MDH33
08-21-2008, 05:51 PM
I could tell on that one, the tread is stretched on the bottom left


Right, because it took me 15 seconds. If I spent 5 minutes I could make it look as good as the chops you posted...

Jenny Cruiser
08-21-2008, 09:39 PM
I didn't know about the date thing. The tires on my Scout are about 15 years old. My Wranglers and Hankooks are all less than 2 years old. All made the same week for each set. Kinda cool. :rolleyes:

Red_Chili
08-22-2008, 09:30 AM
I could tell on that one, the tread is stretched on the bottom left

http://i36.tinypic.com/207kw9x.gif
Borderline NFFW.
Totonka, that is twice now. Watch your step.

TOTONKA
09-27-2008, 04:50 PM
check this out
http://i38.tinypic.com/2d6o6k9.jpg

subzali
01-09-2009, 12:24 PM
Okay, since I bought new tires I somewhat apologize for bringing this thread back up but it got me checking my tires (and my spare).

My spare says:
DOT EURE 1K8171

My new tires say:
DOT K4KENX71

Now I'm really confused, can anybody help?

Kenon698
01-09-2009, 02:51 PM
I am not sure but there should be 3 or 4 numbers after that.

subzali
01-09-2009, 05:27 PM
That's the end of the line (it appears to me). I can even see the screw imprints where it looks like those last few numbers are part of a removable/changeable stamp that's screwed into the mold.

Hayes
01-09-2009, 07:50 PM
Okay, since I bought new tires I somewhat apologize for bringing this thread back up but it got me checking my tires (and my spare).

My spare says:
DOT EURE 1K8171

My new tires say:
DOT K4KENX71

Now I'm really confused, can anybody help?


Look on the other side of the tire and there will be a 12 digit number.

subzali
01-12-2009, 10:13 AM
On my new tires I found the date: 2908, on the back side like you said.

On my spare the back side doesn't even have a DOT line anywhere; I'm thinking I should replace it pretty soon...

Need the check the MT/Rs on the Land Cruiser too...