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subzali
10-16-2008, 09:31 AM
I missed this last year, but I wanted to get people thinking about it! There are two weekend, the 6/7 of Dec. and the 14/15 of Dec. Post up if you're interested and I would like to try to get a group together to hook up with them and go down there! It sounds like a blast!

Man Jerk
10-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Hopefully we get some snow this year :rant:

PhatFJ
11-18-2008, 08:59 AM
The weekend of the 6th./7th. would work great for my wife and I, Love to go!!!

PhatFJ

RockRunner
11-18-2008, 11:37 AM
Where are they going again? I thought it was SW of C springs. LMK we may do it.

MDH33
11-18-2008, 12:09 PM
Do we need to procure permits to cut a tree if we go with their group?

subzali
11-18-2008, 12:36 PM
The event is to team up with the Forest Service to patrol the Christmas Tree Cutting areas for a day - they give you magnetic signs for your truck and radios - you help people who get stuck in the snow and help make sure people are cutting down the right trees. I'd have to let the other guys talk about some of the other details...

here is their thread... (http://forum.ih8mud.com/co-colorado-land-cruisers/251089-annual-christmas-cutting.html)

I would post up over there to let them know you're coming and for more details

And yes it's West of the Springs, up by Divide/Woodland Park.

Man Jerk
11-18-2008, 04:27 PM
All of this happens off of rampart range road, just outside of woodland park.

You will have to purchase a permit if you want a tree. I think they are $10-$15 bucks.

Man Jerk
11-18-2008, 08:36 PM
We are going to need peoples names and the dates they are planning on being there. We have to give the Forest service a list of names and dates.

isotel
11-19-2008, 01:55 AM
Pray for some snow. Just let us know if you plan on going and when, its not a commitment or anything, it sounded like we have a good group from our club on every day but Sunday the 15th.. if you end up needing to change dates its no big deal.. this can be a fun event, if we don't have any rigs to extract, we can still play on the forest service roads, or just enjoy the outdoors with some cruiser heads!

Trevor

JadeRunner
12-03-2008, 09:20 AM
I will be up there this Sunday the 7th with my family and several friends and family's from the Springs. We will be doing a cookout and such with the kids. So with with all that going on I probably won't officially hook up with CLC. I will monitor the radio for fun though.

Hopefully there will be some snow this year. Last year there were just dusty roads. I didn't really see any legal side roads to 4wheel either.

Nay
12-03-2008, 10:11 AM
We got a foot and a half just down the hill in Monument this weekend. I am not sure how the Ramparts did, but my guess is there is a lot of snow up there, especially on the northeastern end of the cutting area.

I will also be up there for a family day to cut down our trees, this should be a fun year :D. I'd go this weekend if you really want to have fun with the snow aspect.

JadeRunner
12-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Excellent. It should be fun then. Are you going sat. or Sunday?

This weekend will be perfect for a Yankee Hill snow run also.

Man Jerk
12-03-2008, 12:36 PM
I will be there on Sunday. I'll be in this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/MarkDJ/1986%204%20runner/4runner006.jpg

Nay
12-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Excellent. It should be fun then. Are you going sat. or Sunday?

This weekend will be perfect for a Yankee Hill snow run also.

I am thinking Saturday. The best trees (and some wheeling that if the snow is deep would only be suitable for a capable group) are down the valley on FS351 as you head out to FS348 and the Rainbow Falls entrance.

This gets very little tree cutting traffic and is a lot of fun :thumb:, but again in any deeper snow would be a fairly serious commitment to head in by yourself. They say this requires chains, but nobody questions a built rig on MT's, even fools who take their entire family by themselves like me :D

I've never tried FS327, that one also looks like fun.

So there are really two possible activities here: one is the support of the FS as a "rescue" team, the other is a group family cutting run. Scott, do you want to try to meet up? I don't know my schedule yet, but if the snow is what it could be, this could be a really fun group day for families with built rigs hunting for the perfect tree. Not trying to crash your party :D, just throwing it out there since it sounds like a bunch of us may be up there.

Man Jerk
12-03-2008, 02:20 PM
The area marked "this area added in 2007" has some fun trails.

Edit:

Look for 300U and 300V


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/MarkDJ/1986%204%20runner/Sat_4.jpg

Nay
12-03-2008, 03:46 PM
Cool, hadn't even looked at it based on no FS roads shown on the map. Another place that with snow especially will have no Subaru or highway biased SUV traffic.

:Princess: will still be much happier in a group :hill:

JadeRunner
12-03-2008, 04:24 PM
I went in from rainbow falls last year. It seemed like a tame dirt road to me. I suppose there were some slight of camber sections that could be tricky if icy. Let me know how it went Sat. pm please.

The road Mark talks about looks fun.

Nay
12-03-2008, 05:49 PM
I went in from rainbow falls last year. It seemed like a tame dirt road to me. I suppose there were some slight of camber sections that could be tricky if icy. Let me know how it went Sat. pm please.

The road Mark talks about looks fun.

It's a tame dirt road to us wheelers, but you are right that there are some narrow exposure points if you had a lot of snow that would be iffy to run alone. I've done it with some ice and snow a number of times, but would be hesitant to go in alone with enough snow to consider it snow wheeling vs. driving on a snowy FS road (>12-15").

I point this out purely to be conservative in making recommendations, as it is a fun area with good trees, but :Princess: with kids could make it unfun in a hurry if it starts looking risky :D

I did google the snow amounts in that area and only found reports of about 4-5 inches from last weekend. It appears the heavy totals really were localized on the higher elevations of the Palmer Divide and not in Teller County.

It's supposed to snow a few inches by tomorrow evening up there, maybe 3-4", so on top of last weekend there will definitely be snow, but doesn't sound like you could get into any "drift busting" issues even if you wander as far out as possible.

That new area looks like fun. I'll report back if we end up heading up there on Saturday. Breaking some new ground without getting remote is something :Princess: will usually buy into when we go out alone, and we know that if a Sube can get there you simply cannot find a suitable tree :D

PhatFJ
12-05-2008, 11:30 AM
Here is a copy of the Pikes Peak Ranger District Permit info...
Permit Sales: The Pikes Peak Ranger District will be offering Christmas tree permits from December 1, through December 17 at the District Office from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Monday through Friday. Permits will be available on site at the Woodland Park Middle School parking lot on Dec. 6 and 7, as well as Dec. 13, and 14 from 8:00 am to 2:30 pm. No mail orders will be accepted.

So it looks like we have to go into Woodland Park to get the permit, do we want to meet in Woodland Park??
Should be a GREAT day!!!

Nay
12-06-2008, 07:55 PM
It was just like last year, except kind of muddy unless you are in the shade on the North end of the area. Warm enough today to really be melting what snow is up there.

The "non chains required" roads were plowed, although still snowy in the shady areas. We went up FS323 to 324 and got two awesome trees at about the bottom of the one-way area on 323. This was snowy enough to be fun tramping around the forest. We came back down Mt. Herman Road into Monument, which was mostly packed/icy snow until near the bottom.

For a tiny bit of wheeling adventure, i.e., unplowed snow (and still the best trees I tell you), coming in Rainbow Falls or down F351 from Rampart Range if you come in via Mt. Herman or Woodland Park will be best.

Great family day, lots of seat of the pants sledding (intended) for the under 10 crowd, and some seat of the pants sledding (unintended) for the over 30 crowd :hill:

Edit: the one way area is at the bottom of FS323

PhatFJ
12-06-2008, 09:47 PM
Went in Rainbow Falls & 351. Had a Blast!! :) :)
Great trees!!

JohnInDenver
12-06-2008, 11:44 PM
I went with 6 other Colo Spgs 4x4 club today. Duties included posting signs, checking out numerous side trails and being available for persons who got stuck. The forest service loaned three forest service radios. Handy. Also, got a donut and a Pike National forest map (the good plastic ones) from the rangers. Cut two trees ($10 ea) from road 327. Most wheelers aired down and did not use selectable lockers. Per forest service request we did not break trail on any new snow.

The views were spectacular, the 4 wheelers very friendly and the weather perfect. The most snow on the less traveled roads was about 4". The loops and main roads (previously shown in this thread) were plowed and well maintained. That is where 90% of the people go. I highly recommend going tomorrow, volunteering your time, and HIT THE OTHER 10% when opportunity knocks.

John In Denver

JadeRunner
12-07-2008, 08:21 AM
Sounds good. Thanks for the report. We will be up 351 from rainbow falls today.

JadeRunner
12-07-2008, 07:33 PM
Snow conditions were less than an inch in the northern areas. Not much snow. Just like last year. We had a good time getting a tree anyway.

Man Jerk
12-07-2008, 09:15 PM
It was pretty quiet today, but here is an example from another of our club members as to why we volunteer out time

After that the day was coming to an end, and we decided to turn in our radios to Rick with the Forest Service. While saying goodbye, a couple was brought up to the group--They had lost their vehicle and had been hiking through the woods for quite some time, the man was in a tee shirt and (from what the forest service said) possibly showing signs of mild hypothermia. We talked about how to help them, and lucky for them, the family who picked them up had marked their GPS position. I drove them until we found their Ford Expedition--within 15 minutes of where they were found. I dropped them off and another call came in about two women who were 2 miles out of the cutting area, and stuck in a Toyota car. They were down FS road 315 and had to walk for over an hour to get help. The trail they were down was VERY steep and completely snow covered. With Chip from the Forest Service driving, the vehicle was pulled almost the whole way up the trail to safety, and they decided to let it slide that the women had a tree from out of the cutting area, lol. good fun had by all, can't wait for next weekend!!! Luke.

timmbuck2
12-08-2008, 10:40 AM
I plan on heading up on Sunday...anyone else?