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MDH33
10-16-2008, 05:55 PM
...now where are the cookies! ;)

I really did want something "newish", but I'm just an old-rig kind of guy I guess.

'82 Toyota SR5 with original paint and the remnants of the uber-cool stock decals too. :hill:

http://mdhuber.smugmug.com/photos/395658199_TYVp6-M.jpg

Main use will be wood and building material hauling, but you know I'll have it on the trail occasionally too. :thumb:

Rezarf
10-16-2008, 06:39 PM
Cool Martin!
:woot:

Bikeman
10-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Time for some tall and skinny tires on that one, too!

Shark Bait
10-16-2008, 07:08 PM
Way cool, Martin.

Check this out: www.jamesdeancreations.com/1981-83.htm

Corbet
10-16-2008, 07:48 PM
very nice.

MDH33
10-16-2008, 08:33 PM
Time for some tall and skinny tires on that one, too!

Way cool, Martin.

Check this out: www.jamesdeancreations.com/1981-83.htm

Yeah. I'm already thinking about some 31x9.50 TSL radials.

Those replacement decals are the ticket if I ever decide to restify it. For now I'm digging the original patina. ;)

wesintl
10-16-2008, 08:58 PM
Awesome martin. That thing looks pretty clean. Where did you find it?

Rock Dog
10-16-2008, 09:03 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side :D:D I love the round fender well mini's !!

MDH33
10-17-2008, 07:42 AM
Awesome martin. That thing looks pretty clean. Where did you find it?

It was up here in Evergreen. The guy posted it on CL and I went and looked at it right away and told him I would take it pending a Pass on emissions. Since it's an '82 he had to dyno test it at AirCare. Passed easily so we picked it up yesterday. We got a great a deal on it too. Overall it's pretty clean. There's a small rust hole in the DS front fender a longer one on the DS bed seam, and some bubbles around the windshield seal. I'm going to replace the windshield because it's cracked, so I'll try to remedy the rust around the windshield then. The frame, floors, cab, doors etc are solid. I thought it was pretty cool to find one that was so unmolested. Now I need to learn more about 22R's. :)

http://mdhuber.smugmug.com/photos/395658959_xZX6W-M.jpg

http://mdhuber.smugmug.com/photos/395658577_ZYu7r-M-1.jpg

Man Jerk
10-17-2008, 08:11 AM
I want a 1st gen pick up so bad!

Nice Score.

subzali
10-17-2008, 08:19 AM
Very sweet Martin, my dad had a '79 4x4 longbed (first year for the 4x4 pickup) and loved that thing, wishes he still had it. That truck will do you good service. What's the mileage on it?

Be warned those early beds are harbors of rust. Seriously think about going custom flatbed on it if/when the time comes and you can't stand the rust any more. The cabs are usually better and don't see nearly the same amount of rust problems.

22R is super easy.

MDH33
10-17-2008, 08:52 AM
Very sweet Martin, my dad had a '79 4x4 longbed (first year for the 4x4 pickup) and loved that thing, wishes he still had it. That truck will do you good service. What's the mileage on it?

Be warned those early beds are harbors of rust. Seriously think about going custom flatbed on it if/when the time comes and you can't stand the rust any more. The cabs are usually better and don't see nearly the same amount of rust problems.

22R is super easy.

Yeah, this bed will hold together for awhile yet. Better than a lot of them I've seen. The truck has 170K on it, so hopefully still has some miles left in it.

nakman
10-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Awesome man.. is it up for some Spooky action?

subzali
10-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Nice, that's less miles than my '91. But according to other threads you're due for a head gasket and timing chain :D

nuclearlemon
10-17-2008, 08:18 PM
sweet! i miss my mini...:(

DaveInDenver
10-17-2008, 09:54 PM
sweet! i miss my mini...:(
Good old Clampy.

wesintl
10-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Martin, Ya need a nest on it! right Dave...

DaveInDenver
10-17-2008, 09:57 PM
Martin, Ya need a nest on it! right Dave...
I happen to have an extra 'Nest at the moment. Art Hog gets first crack, but if you wanna join the really cool mini trucks, we'll see what we can do Martin.

MDH33
10-18-2008, 08:22 AM
I happen to have an extra 'Nest at the moment. Art Hog gets first crack, but if you wanna join the really cool mini trucks, we'll see what we can do Martin.

Thanks, but my RTT will be fine for now. I'm going to get a set of bars like Kurt has on his tacoma. Should work great. ;)

Hulk
10-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Wow, that's a great truck!

http://rustybrain.com/haha/wants.jpg

DaveInDenver
10-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Wow, that's a great truck!

http://rustybrain.com/haha/wants.jpg
Where do you find these graphics? LOL!

waggoner5
10-18-2008, 11:58 AM
Very cool. I bought a 79 right off the showroom floor in 79 and loved that truck. I kept it almost 10 years which was a record for me.

MDH33
10-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments. Nice that an old, rusty rig can still get some compliments. ;)

Started in wrenching already. Trying to get all the squeaks, rattles and previous owner stuff remedied. Overall it seems like it was well cared for. I found a couple of things this weekend:

Bell cranks for the parking brake were seized up, so I went through the rear brakes and fixed that. Noticed that the exhaust is ready for a cat-back replacement, so I'll see if Toyota still has them.

Also, took if for a drive Saturday and when I parked it, I heard some gurgling under the hood. Radiator fill tank was full and being sucked back into the radiator. Temp guage never said hot, so I'm not sure if this is normal, or maybe it just has some air in the system. (?)

I need some more road time to find more bugs, but I'm diggin' it and Kim loves driving it too. She asked "so how will this do on the mountain trails compared to the Land Cruisers"? :Princess: :D

As soon as I get a few more things tweaked we'll have to find out. :thumb:

Hulk
10-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Where do you find these graphics? LOL!

I spending much time on the Interwebs.

http://rustybrain.com/haha/bushinternets.jpg


Sorry for the thread hijack. I still love this truck.

rover67
10-20-2008, 07:56 AM
looks great man, it'll be nice this winter!

MDH33
10-20-2008, 08:05 AM
looks great man, it'll be nice this winter!

Thanks. The winter was a big deciding factor since I will have my 40 apart for the 4 speed swap and we'll need something to scoot around town in. Our 60 is questionable too whether it will be running. I think I'm running on 5 cylinders again...

cbmontgo
10-20-2008, 09:15 AM
Nice find. Those are such classics in the making...

SteveH
10-20-2008, 12:41 PM
I thought the 'dark side' was Jeeps or IFS - that's not a very dark 'dark side'.

Cool ride, though.

I traded a $150 pickup bed trailer for an early '79 longbed 4x4, and I must say - the only truck I ever drove that rode worse than my FJ40. I still see it around Colo Springs. Those early minitrucks are as honest as they get.

MDH33
10-20-2008, 12:50 PM
I thought the 'dark side' was Jeeps or IFS - that's not a very dark 'dark side'.

Cool ride, though.

I traded a $150 pickup bed trailer for an early '79 longbed 4x4, and I must say - the only truck I ever drove that rode worse than my FJ40. I still see it around Colo Springs. Those early minitrucks are as honest as they get.

I think the "dark side" (at least in Rising Sun), are those who drive non-Land Cruiser Toyotas.

You need to take my 40 for a spin sometime, Steve. I'm sure the 4" lift springs, manual steering and bias ply tires will change your opinion about a rough ride. You'll be thinking your 40 is a Cadillac. ;)

Uncle Ben
10-20-2008, 01:01 PM
I think the "dark side" (at least in Rising Sun), are those who drive non-Land Cruiser Toyotas.


Actually "Dark Side" is a term from Henry Brimmer. Back in the day when folks whined about non Land Cruisers in TLCA and Henry caught a huge amount of flack for doing a hard core theme with his "Land Cruiser" calender and thus having a few full color pics of mini's doing their thing. It became a huge private joke in the inner circles and took life. The joke became widely known when Henry introduced "El-Loco" and announced he went to the "Dark-Side." The bashing you see here in the club and elsewhere in Toyland between mini's and Cruisers is just friendly and a bleed over from great times, too many beers and life long friendships!

MDH33
10-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Great history. :cool:

All these Toyota 4x4's are cool in my book. Especially if they're 20+ years old and still on the trail. :hill:

Red_Chili
10-20-2008, 01:21 PM
My first Toyota was an '82 longbed. :thumb:

Hey Martin, that rust is not too bad yet. Catch it quick!!! Stock non-rusty beds are rare indeed, be the proud owner of one! Get it fixed right; I tried the 'handy man' approach and it came back 3 months later.

For the cat back, don't bother with stock Toyota, it's a cork. Go 2.25" from the cat back with a Magnaflow and it will run (and sound) much better without being the least bit obnoxious. And I doubt you will pay more.

MDH33
10-20-2008, 02:21 PM
My first Toyota was an '82 longbed. :thumb:

Hey Martin, that rust is not too bad yet. Catch it quick!!! Stock non-rusty beds are rare indeed, be the proud owner of one! Get it fixed right; I tried the 'handy man' approach and it came back 3 months later.

For the cat back, don't bother with stock Toyota, it's a cork. Go 2.25" from the cat back with a Magnaflow and it will run (and sound) much better without being the least bit obnoxious. And I doubt you will pay more.



The bed is pretty nice on the passenger side but it has a long hole along the driver side seam. It might be considered too far gone already by some, but just fine for a driver and work rig for us. The PO also cut out part of the wheel well on the DS in order to mount that tool box. (didn't notice that one until too late.) :doh:

Too bad no one makes steel replacement panels for them. I saw the fiberglass beds from BC. Those look pretty nice, but cost a lot more than I paid for this rig.

Thanks for the info on the exhaust. I'll take it in to the local shop and see what they can do.

Red_Chili
10-21-2008, 07:23 AM
Ah, well, there are some really cool flatbed designs out there. I keep trying to convince my friend he should do one, but he bought a rusted out bed instead!!! :eek:

DaveInDenver
10-21-2008, 08:09 AM
Ah, well, there are some really cool flatbed designs out there. I keep trying to convince my friend he should do one, but he bought a rusted out bed instead!!! :eek:
My bed is getting bad, the sides are splaying out. I'd like to do a flat bed and I even have something in mind. My concern about them is mostly weight, hard to really beat a factory bed for strength against weight. All that stamped relief does make the relatively thin metal fairly rigid. Oh, and there's the money. A flat bed is not free...

I would also point out that if I had an overseas bed with external hooks and side latches on the tailgate, I'd be more likely to patch and repair it than with my generic smooth side, middle handle bed. Primarily the two side latches (which a 1982 SR5 probably won't have, that might only be a '79 & '80 thing). If my bed had those, I'm sure the sides would not have bent out as much. It's the pressure of the WidlerNest spring mostly, it's forcing the two bed sides apart and eventually with all the banging off road and what-not, the sides will open.

Uncle Ben
10-21-2008, 08:38 AM
Has anyone ever looked into factory Tray back beds? Surley, someone is importing them in! They are strong and lightweight.

MDH33
10-21-2008, 08:48 AM
Has anyone ever looked into factory Tray back beds? Surley, someone is importing them in! They are strong and lightweight.

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty trick with the aluminum and having the removable sides. I did some quick searches about anyone bringing them in, but found nothing.

DaveInDenver
10-21-2008, 08:48 AM
Has anyone ever looked into factory Tray back beds? Surley, someone is importing them in! They are strong and lightweight.
Down under Toyota does sell ute trays through the dealer. I dunno if they are made by Toyota, but I suspect they are a locally available body that is re-badged. They look nice and I would like to start with the alloy flat tray and fenders. I would do something more substantial with the sides, since it would have to mount the 'Nest. But sure do wish we had options like that from the factory, eh?

MDH33
10-21-2008, 08:55 AM
Those are the ticket Dave. Lets start an import and conversion business. :thumb:


I found this one on CL right after I picked mine up. If this was 2 grand less, I would have seriously considered it, but it must be really heavy/slow. The plus is that it's a clean '85 extended cab:

http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/872794524.html

DaveInDenver
10-21-2008, 08:55 AM
I was thinking the same thing. Pretty trick with the aluminum and having the removable sides. I did some quick searches about anyone bringing them in, but found nothing.
I think a company called Silverback Ute makes the alloy ones for Toyota Australia. If not, they are dang similar.

http://www.silverbackutetrays.com.au/

http://www.silverbackutetrays.com.au/images/hilux.jpg

http://www.silverbackutetrays.com.au/images/landcruiser.jpg

Anyway, the closest I found was a custom flat bed from a utility body company. Spendy...

http://jjequipment.com/graphics/flatbeds/pic_aluminum.jpg

I think the only real option for aluminum (money being not a problem) is to have Oleg or someone weld up a custom tray. If you go with steel, then you might have more options for fabricators, but I'm back to the weight problem.

Caribou Sandstorm
10-21-2008, 09:05 AM
Those beds are awesome. Would make a great trailer also...

Martin, when I saw this post I thought, ohh he got an FJC.. Darkside and all..

Maybe that is what is needed is an FJC pickup version..ohh that is the Tundra..

Your new truck looks really clean! enjoy!

Uncle Ben
10-21-2008, 09:11 AM
Tell me what you want exactly and I'll ask John at Gold Coast 4wd Wreckers (http://www.4x4parts.com.au/) how much for the bed and the shipping. I have an account there.

MDH33
10-21-2008, 10:32 AM
Tell me what you want exactly and I'll ask John at Gold Coast 4wd Wreckers (http://www.4x4parts.com.au/) how much for the bed and the shipping. I have an account there.

That would be awesome if you could do some investigating. :)

I would be curious to find out what it would cost to get an aluminum tray similar to what Dave posted that would fit something like an '85 extended cab.

:beer:

Uncle Ben
10-21-2008, 11:00 AM
That would be awesome if you could do some investigating. :)

I would be curious to find out what it would cost to get an aluminum tray similar to what Dave posted that would fit something like an '85 extended cab.

:beer:

Inquiry sent! Martin, send me your e-addy so I can CC you on communication.

bh4rnnr
10-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Congrats Martin! You have lower miles than me(265K). Looking forward to seeing it on the trail:cheers:

Azrael
10-23-2008, 09:00 PM
Found the perfect toy to go with this purchase. :lmao:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Tamiya-Hilux-Highlift-Scale-RC-Truck-Crawler_W0QQitemZ110301335676QQihZ001QQcategoryZ44029QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

MDH33
10-24-2008, 07:39 AM
Found the perfect toy to go with this purchase. :lmao:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Tamiya-Hilux-Highlift-Scale-RC-Truck-Crawler_W0QQitemZ110301335676QQihZ001QQcategoryZ44029QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dang! That's a perfect match. Just needs some rust and peeling decals. :hill:

Jacket
10-24-2008, 07:43 AM
With all the positive mojo and interest in this thread, I'd say your mini is a far cry from the dark side - unless the dark side is "envy."

Beautiful rig Martin. Your patience paid off and you found one right up there in your backyard. Very nice.

DaveInDenver
10-24-2008, 07:47 AM
Dang! That's a perfect match. Just needs some rust and peeling decals. :hill:
That could be a dead ringer for Dean's truck.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128600
http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18868
http://ripper7racing.com/r7rforums/showthread.php?t=2614