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Hulk
02-04-2009, 12:24 PM
An old friend of mine, Tim Noreen, purchased a set of the 16" split rims from Abe, to use on his 1969 FJ40. He has been exploring tire choices.

Option one:
NDCC Non-Directional Military Tires (http://www.tirewiz.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=123)
http://www.tirewiz.com/store/pc/catalog/Mil-NDCC.jpeg

Option two:
Recaps from a company called Treadwright in South Dakota (http://treadwright.com/Tires-215_85R16_OTR-P28.aspx). They've been around 15+ years. Tim read several reviews about the company and tires and guys seem to love them. OTR is their version of a mudder tread. The size would be 215/85/16 so they would be taller and skinny, not like the fatter version in the picture. They are fine for highway use. Because they are recaps the sidewall can vary: Goodyear, BF Goodrich, etc. but you can request that all 4 or 5 tires have matching sidewalls.
http://treadwright.com/ImgDisplay.aspx?w=400&h=400&img=100_3507.jpg

Hulk
02-04-2009, 12:26 PM
So here are some questions:

1. Anyone have any experience with NDCC Non-Directional Military Tires? Is there a reason you never see these on most 4WD vehicles? Are they safe on the street?

2. Recaps: anything to be aware of or look out for?

wesintl
02-04-2009, 12:29 PM
There are alot more choices than that for 16's.

I plan to run the NDC once I need new tires on my 64. I don't really drive it all that much though. If it is driven regularly you'd want some siped tires. I don't know how much lift he does or doesn't have but I'd get a 7x16. That's what I've been running on my 70 with those jeep services. There are ton's of farm type tires in 7x16.

as soon as mud is back up I can link you a list of stock size tires in the 25 section.

treerootCO
02-04-2009, 01:20 PM
Did you say 16"s? Then there is only one choice.....


OEM baby! (or at least the closest you can get...;))
http://www.ityre.com/en/tyres/catalog/dunlop/model/4460/

treerootCO
02-04-2009, 01:22 PM
1965
http://www.root45.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1188&g2_serialNumber=1

This is OEM for 1969 if he has the later 1969 with the full windows:

http://www.root45.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1047&g2_serialNumber=1

They still ran the Roadtrak Major in 1970. The Dunlop SnowCruisers came shortly after 1970.

http://www.root45.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1168&g2_serialNumber=1

cbmontgo
02-05-2009, 10:42 AM
Seems like the option 1 may be a tubeless tire (at least on the old M416 military trailers). Option 2 might be better just for this reason.

corsair23
02-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Everytime I look at that picture with the kids sitting in the back of the 40 with the hatch up I keep thinking "Someone is going to get knocked out" :eek: I guess those hatch struts worked better new than 30+ years later :hill: - Hurts like he!! when that hatch comes down on your back or worse, your noggin

treerootCO
02-05-2009, 03:08 PM
Everytime I look at that picture with the kids sitting in the back of the 40 with the hatch up I keep thinking "Someone is going to get knocked out" :eek: I guess those hatch struts worked better new than 30+ years later :hill: - Hurts like he!! when that hatch comes down on your back or worse, your noggin

If you read the owner's manual you would know that you can screw the nut clockwise to lock the gate open;)

corsair23
02-05-2009, 06:18 PM
If you read the owner's manual you would know that you can screw the nut clockwise to lock the gate open;)

BTDT...Still dang near get knocked out once in awhile :eek:...I've learned not to throw anything heavy (like a tire) into the rear while standing there :cool: The real fix is to just remove the top :D

RockRunner
02-05-2009, 06:43 PM
I love those adds.

Now back to the topic, I looked at those recaps for my DD. They are rated pretty high compared to some of the "real" tires. I remember when it was only truckers and farmers that bought them and the general public would not think about it. For a second set of winter tires for my DD they are not a bad deal. IMO :D

Beater
02-06-2009, 07:54 AM
you can also run modern radials with radial tubes. I did that for my 59 international.. any place like tci or other commercial tire place can hook you up.
j

Red_Chili
02-06-2009, 11:41 AM
I love those old ads too.

Funny how the horsepower went up and the speed (80 vs. 85) went down... :lmao:

Air Randy
02-06-2009, 12:14 PM
From my experience driving on them, the NDCC military tires are NOT a safe choice for use on the road especially when you have much better choices available.

These tires were designed to be the most cost effective (read that as cheapest to build and buy) and run on all different types of vehicles, equipment carriages (artillery, trailers, etc) and to perform "OK" whether running on pavement or dirt. Thus they are a compromise in every way and never did anything "good" except fulfill the cheap requirement. Also, they were never intended to exceed 45mph and are down right dangerous on wet or snowy pavement at any speed.

They do "OK" off road but aren't the best choice there either, something like the original stock tires is much better.