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Enigma303
02-07-2009, 07:23 PM
Ok so I recently got my newest toy, which has a major problem. Somehow... the left pit-man arm is set in wrong. I believe it is just a quarter turn off but not sure. So I get about 2 1/2 turns out of steering wheel when I turn right but only about 1 3/4 or so when I turn left. Basically I'm just wondering how difficult it would be to pull it and set it right. I have never done it before so on a scale of the old 1-10 how damm hard is it? Thanks in advance if anyone can help, or give any advice.

nuclearlemon
02-07-2009, 09:32 PM
the left pit-man arm is set in wrong.

you specify left, there's only one pitman arm:confused: is this the arm coming off the bottom of the steering gear? you'll need to get the lower nut off, impact is the only way i've been able to get them loose on other model cruisers, then you need a high quality puller.

don't use heat because you can damage the output seal.

also, just before you pull it, get an awl and scratch a line across the arm and the bottom of the output shaft so you know where it was before you pulled it

corsair23
02-07-2009, 09:51 PM
Did you check to make sure that when you turn left you aren't up against the "doohickey" that is supposed to limit how far the tires will turn left or right? I'm sure there is a technical term for whatever it is (turn limiter bolt or ??)

I only ask because I remember seeing those doohickeys when Ben and I serviced my 80's front axle and I asked them what they were for :hill: - Just thinking out loud but if someone backed one of them out for some reason I would think that would limit your turn radius.

Enigma303
02-10-2009, 12:54 PM
I do know that it is not the thing with no tech. name we know of (Wheel stop thingy). It is the pitman arm, and I just said left because alot of ppl confuse the idler arm and pitman arm. Worth while to just buy a new one for 40-50 bucks. I can just rent a puller from autozone right? will one of those universal ones work? Thanks

Uncle Ben
02-10-2009, 01:20 PM
Pitman arms have double spline blocks at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock so they can not be off by a tooth. If it was off it would have to be 90* off!

Bikeman
02-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Stop. Don't do anything. You need to re-center your steering wheel via the relay rod. It has an adjuster on it.

You cannot re-index the PA. The splines do not allow this. The only other reason why it would be off is if someone pulled the steering wheel and didn't put it back on the steering shaft where it was.

Edit: UB beat me to it!

Enigma303
02-11-2009, 11:41 AM
i thought i had said a quarter turn off on the pitman, sorry if i confused you guys. it is a full 90* off, (i believe) thats the problem. fine to drive but a drive through or parking is a bitch. so bikeman... i do not need to pull the arm then? or if i do i just need a new one? thanks guys

Uncle Ben
02-11-2009, 12:33 PM
i thought i had said a quarter turn off on the pitman, sorry if i confused you guys. it is a full 90* off, (i believe) thats the problem. fine to drive but a drive through or parking is a bitch. so bikeman... i do not need to pull the arm then? or if i do i just need a new one? thanks guys

There is no way I would think it could be indexed 90* off! That is way extreme considering the PA only travels about 30* total travel. WOW!

Bikeman
02-11-2009, 01:38 PM
I still think the relay rod needs adjusting. Is the rig lifted? A 4" lift could make the steering wheel off 90* if it has not been corrected. Is the steering wheel straight when you are driving?

Enigma303
02-12-2009, 12:18 PM
Ok so I'm just a dumbass... so I went to see Oleg before I did anything rash. He told me I just need a new steering box. So ty Ben and Bike for all the help.

Cruiserdrew
02-17-2009, 02:41 AM
Pitman arms have double spline blocks at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock so they can not be off by a tooth. If it was off it would have to be 90* off!

This is only true for Saginaw. Cruiser PS boxes have non-indexing splines, go look.

It is easily possible to get the Pittman 1 spline off. BTDT.