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DaveInDenver
03-14-2009, 09:07 AM
Driving home yesterday talking to the Tim(m)s, K0NAK and KD0TIM, something occurred to me, so let's throw this out for discussion.

Our de-facto frequency is 2m simplex 146.460MHz. No reason to change that, it's habit and works fine.

But we were having a tough time keeping the contact going, me being in a hole at Arapahoe and Havana, KD0TIM being up north on US36 (I think) and Nakman I guess being inside a Faraday Cage someplace. That we could talk around at all in a 40 mile range with interference is pretty cool anyway, but might as well take advantage of the radios our fellow hams have setup.

We should have a back-up de-facto repeater to jump to in case simplex isn't working. That will be much more common with Nak moving down into the plains again. So if after a few attempts to hold a contact we're not getting it done, jump to the repeater to finish the QSO. It does no one any good to tie up a frequency with 3 hams TXing at 50W getting 10% of the conversation.

So 145.460MHz? This is the CRA Lee Hill repeater up near Boulder, which is linked to 147.225MHz up on Conifer Mt. I can get into both of them from town, so we should have very good coverage from Ft Collins down to Monument.

145.460MHz, -0.600, W0CRA/R, Lee Hill, CTCSS=107.2
147.225MHz, +0.600, W0CRA/R, Conifer Mtn, CTCSS=107.2

For those using my programming files on their VX-7R or FT-8800:

VX-7R
#355 is simplex 146.460
#140 is repeater 145.460
#150 is repeater 147.225

FT-8800
#60 is simplex 146.460 (this one is tagged RSSIMP)
#6 is simplex 146.460 also
#107 is repeater 145.460
#108 is repeater 147.225

Also on the FT-8800, if you push the #4 button to the upper right of the display your radio will jump to #107 on the left side, #60 on the right side (at low power) with the left side being the active frequency (the one you will TX on). This is hyper memory configuration #4, if you wanted to know. Think of this as a bail-out button, if our QTH on the QSO are causing QRK issues, we can QSY to the repeater to eliminate QRN. Push #4 and you will jump to the 145.460 repeater without much fumbling around whilest operating your mobile station safely and efficiently. :-)

Uncle Ben
03-14-2009, 10:03 AM
Now your talking! I hate the 145.145! CRA kicks butt plus you can detach a repeater off the system if you need to have a more closed audience! BTW I am a paid member of the CRA.

treerootCO
03-14-2009, 10:15 AM
I was monitoring the discussion between all three. Dave came in clear the entire time, Nakman would fade in and out, and TimB was very scratchy.

I know I can hit the CCR system but an HT at the same location, same output, cannot.

I'll key up the repeaters and report back:
145.460MHz, -0.600, W0CRA/R, Lee Hill, CTCSS=107.2
147.225MHz, +0.600, W0CRA/R, Conifer Mtn, CTCSS=107.2

timmbuck2
03-14-2009, 11:09 AM
I was driving from north downtown over towards the airport, lost you at about i70 and quebec

treerootCO
03-14-2009, 11:29 AM
I can key up both repeaters from here.

145.460MHz, -0.600, W0CRA/R, Lee Hill, CTCSS=107.2
147.225MHz, +0.600, W0CRA/R, Conifer Mtn, CTCSS=107.2

Red_Chili
03-14-2009, 12:17 PM
Dave, I so look forward to you coming over and helping me make sense of programming this into my radio.

Man. Am I gonna be beer-poor or WHAT?!? :lmao:

timmbuck2
03-14-2009, 02:20 PM
I have a 2800 so I think the dual band stuff is not applicable to me...

Groucho
03-14-2009, 02:26 PM
Whatever we do, we need to make it known to all as a protocol for what to do. A sked, of sorts. IMO, simplex is good, but it really limits the amount of participation. We aren't in the boonies, so the use of a repeater is quite normal. I for one hope the choice made of which repeater system is used is one that is normally quiet, that is to say, not like the 145 repeater.

I have always liked the 146.805 WA2YZT repeater. It is at the broadcast antenna farm site above Golden, is linked to 447.175 and has a completely open IRLP node. Another good thing about that repeater is that a bunch of broadcast engineers hang out there, so the conversation may have reasonable relevance to radio.

We can always hang out at one, and when the traffic becomes too much, go to another. That is part of the reason we switched from 145.145 to simplex in the first place:too much blah, blah traffic.

Another thing we could request is to have a sked on a repeater. We do not necessarily have to have emergency purpose behind a sked, just something on the website (both RS and the repeater we choose) that says we meet there between 9 & 9:30PM on Mondays, for example.

I am glad UB is a card carrying geek (I mean member) of the CRA. We all need to be if we are to use one repeater on a continuous basis. It helps keep things going.

Dave, you on point with this transition?

Red_Chili
03-15-2009, 08:56 AM
Not working tomorrow, so a morning ride fer sure and just chores after. Of course beer would seal the deal.
Well of course! Goes without saying. I can throw in a homemade top shelf margarita but you might need to camp in my driveway for a few hours afterward... so mi cervesa es su cervesa.

I may have time mid-afternoon (church in the morning, followed by family lunch; dog class at 5; them's the bookends). Finishing up a little fab project for the pre-run next weekend. I can whip out my laptop and maybe get an accelerated ramp-up on the software to program the dang thing before next weekend, these trips and runs are always good incentive.

Uncle Ben
03-15-2009, 02:30 PM
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: 73's to Treeroot whom I caught sitting around his kitchen in his underwear monitoring the 145.46 freq! Nice to have clean airwaves all to yourself!

nakman
03-15-2009, 03:44 PM
Alright, I'm all for switching.. missed you guys but did just speak with Dave who was down in Littleton, from up here in Broomfield land, seems to connect the front range quite well. For the record, 147.225 was way cleaner than 145.460.. I didn't realize the two were linked but I'll be camping on 147.225 for sure. monitoring.. :yagi:


BTW, there's a guy down the street with at least two antennas, has a stealth horizontal beam that's painted to match his trim :cool: and then he's got this really huge vertical beam in the back yard. I guess the covenants here are cool with that...

jacdaw
03-15-2009, 04:51 PM
I need to make a cheat sheet for the dash board with all your call signs -- mine is way too easy not to recognize but CQing on FM simplex seems so foreign to me, especially without the reassuring squelch tail to tell me I'm getting out. :lmao:
I have 6.46 simplex and the 5.46 machine plugged in to channel 1 and 2 of the dualbander and I listen a lot as I drive around. I'm contemplating installing the ancient FT-2400 just so I can keep the antenna farm on the Yakima rack growing.

Red_Chili
03-16-2009, 10:34 AM
Well, Dave was A BIG HELP as usual. Got the radio presets organized very nicely, and filled in quite a few knowledge gaps. Good to chat with Nak and Ricardo.

BTW, for the sake of us n00bs, beware abbreviations. It don't take much to lose us slow children.

12207

timmbuck2
03-16-2009, 10:45 AM
145.460 was all space shuttle this morning...kinda cool

Jacket
03-16-2009, 11:00 AM
For the record, 147.225 was way cleaner than 145.460.. I didn't realize the two were linked but I'll be camping on 147.225 for sure. monitoring.. :yagi:


When you say "linked", does that mean that conversations are "shared" across both repeaters? For example, if you are monitoring 147.225, and someone is broadcasting to 145.460, will you hear it?

nakman
03-16-2009, 11:18 AM
When you say "linked", does that mean that conversations are "shared" across both repeaters? For example, if you are monitoring 147.225, and someone is broadcasting to 145.460, will you hear it?

Yes. Linked in the same way all the colorado connection repeaters are (145.310, etc.)

And Gavin and I sat on the couch last night and monitored that space shuttle launch, then about 15 minutes into orbit. That was super cool, and the guy who put it on said they've been doing that for 10+ years. It was fun to hear "real astronauts" on the radio. :D

That's also a downside to switching our default to this one, it being open IRLP it can and will be taken over by other people turning it onto something else, like monitoring the space shuttle. So we should consider 146.805 as a second choice, perhaps?

The only way to have a repeater all to ourselves is to build our own, but even then it would only be as private as our tone and offset, right? Still something I think we should do as a club though, would be so sweet for larger club runs & Cruise Moab.

rover67
04-24-2009, 12:26 AM
What would be a good repeater to connect to in Moab?

ginericLC
04-24-2009, 07:20 AM
What simplex frequencies are you guys running at Cruise Moab? I'll be down mid-day Thursday and would like to catch the tail end of the crews coming off the trail.

jacdaw
04-24-2009, 07:29 AM
What simplex frequencies are you guys running at Cruise Moab? I'll be down mid-day Thursday and would like to catch the tail end of the crews coming off the trail.

Common Channels
CM09 Base 146.460 (simplex)
Repeater #1 146.760, 88.5 Hz tone
Repeater #2 146.900, 88.5 Hz tone

Behind The Rocks 145.510
Chicken Corners 145.590
Cliff Hanger 145.670
Elephant Hill 145.750
Fins and Things 146.420
Gold Bar Rim 146.600
Golden Spike 147.440
Hells Revenge 147.520
Kane Creek Canyon 147.560
Metal Masher 147.480
Moab Rim 147.400
Poison Spider Mesa 147.600
Porcupine Rim 145.790
Pritchett Canyon 145.710
Steel Bender 145.630
Wipe Out Hill 145.550

Hulk
04-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Eric, most of us will be on 146.460. It's our regular simplex chat. We usually try to chat from trail to trail. Last year, I was talking with guys on the Spike while I led Steel Bender.

treerootCO
05-11-2009, 12:50 PM
Is 145.460 Space Shuttle again today?

rover67
05-11-2009, 12:54 PM
also curious about the suttle, would like to listen!

treerootCO
05-11-2009, 02:19 PM
What do you guys use when you are at Lucent Blvd and C-470? I am unable to receive or hit the 147.225 or the 145.460 repeaters.

wesintl
05-11-2009, 02:57 PM
I don't remember having issues with those 2. Although I'm not right there i'm close.

nakman
05-11-2009, 03:02 PM
What do you guys use when you are at Lucent Blvd and C-470?

I would use the gas pedal... as I'm apparently way too far south.. :D :lmao: :bolt:

MDH33
09-25-2009, 01:41 PM
Bump

So, was there ever a choice made for which repeater the club tends to use most when not on simplex? I wanted to get a few more things programmed into my 8800 other than just the CCR's.

:yagi:

treerootCO
11-18-2009, 11:01 AM
The cool kids are monitoring 146.460 Simplex and the linked CRA repeaters:

145.460MHz, -0.600, W0CRA/R, Lee Hill, CTCSS=107.2
147.225MHz, +0.600, W0CRA/R, Conifer Mtn, CTCSS=107.2

wesintl
11-18-2009, 11:22 AM
145.145...

treerootCO
11-18-2009, 11:28 AM
145.145...

But I don't want to talk about gout all the time :(

wesintl
11-18-2009, 11:33 AM
But I don't want to talk about gout all the time :(

you'll need that info as you get older :eek::lmao:

timmbuck2
11-18-2009, 11:37 AM
hey! I have gout and I am young! kinda...but at least I don't talk about it on the airwaves....

I don't remember the last time I listened to 145.145

wesintl
11-18-2009, 11:39 AM
I mostly listen to 104.3 now unless i'm on a run

:borg:

rover67
11-18-2009, 12:30 PM
But I don't want to talk about gout all the time :(

No kidding, they have the weirdest conversations some times. One afternoon while I was workign on the truck two dudes went on for hours about the different cheeses they offer at costco. :confused: