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Red_Chili 05-07-2012 12:49 PM

Diesel add vice
Well, looks like we need a bit of a mid course adjustment. The pop up just won't cut it for doing the dog show circuit... no toitie nor shower.

A bigger trailer might work... but then the Green Chili might struggle a bit to pull it. And Red Chili might too... adjustments, adjustments.

So it looks like the Starcraft 10 R/T will be sold, and the Green Chili, to be replaced with a diesel pickup and pickup camper (used of course). The combo should work well with Lise's dog showing, plus I can flat tow the Chili wherever, plus I can pull bikes wherever.

We got inspired when we swung by Holiday RV in Poncha Springs and they showed us around their used stuff, low pressure, good folks, and they often get trucks AND campers all set up with low miles. The numbers work. Things that make you go Hmmm..... Hmmm.....

SO... I do NOT know full size diesels. Most of you fellers run Dodge, correct? Is the savings of a 5.9L offset by more torque in the 6.7L? I had a Powerstroke, and was not terribly impressed all in all (but it was a '97 older body style...). What do you Ford fellers have to say in your defense?

Last I heard about Dodge, there were front brake reliability and transmission issues around 100K miles or so, is this not true?

I would hope to find something around 70K-120K miles to keep the price down. Issues? Things to be on guard about/ look for?

So, O opining ones.... opine!!

subzali 05-07-2012 01:02 PM

I know of several Duramax's in the club. So don't leave them out of the race just yet.

Beater 05-07-2012 01:14 PM

talk to me offline on green chile -

SteveH 05-07-2012 01:15 PM

I bought a Crew/short 7.3 2001 Powerstroke F350. At the time, Tundras were too expensive (and not 3/4 ton), Dodge didn't offer a true crew-cab (in an affordable year), and there were few-to-no Duramax trucks for sale. I'm a Ford guy anyway. The Dodges I test drove had a lot of trim issues (broken down seats, broken switches, mirrors, etc.) and even more lifeless and dead steering than the Ford. The 7.3 is time-tested, but noisy and not particularly powerful. It has all the power I need, but it's not for racing. It's reliable and relatively cheaper to fix than newer stuff. I wouldn't buy a 6.0 ('03-07) Ford no matter what, in spite of their impressive power and the 5 speed auto trans.

All domestic trucks like this have auto transmission issues and front brake issues. Mine had new tires, new brakes, and a rebuilt trans, and I would look for all or most of those in any truck you buy.

I don't use my Ford as a daily driver - too big, to hard to park, too expensive to drive, etc. If you can swing this sort of truck as a weekend warrior, you'll like it a lot more. As a family vacation-mobile, it's hard to beat. Loads of room and 16-17 mpg towing a smallish trailer. I love being able to tow junk cars and loads of gravel, and not have white knuckles, as I did behind my Toyotas.

Red_Chili 05-07-2012 01:46 PM

It has to serve as a DD, since it would replace the 97 4Runner. But... my DD activities usually mean parking in an RTD lot in Aspen Park. I would need a longbed (for camper room) crew or Xtracab. My '97 was a shortbed crew, so I am familiar with it.

I didn't like $50 oil changes (done myself... good grief) but with synthetics I could stretch that quite a bit. Plusses and minusses.

I wouldn't buy a 6.0 ('03-07) Ford no matter what, ...
Why not? Say more. Mine was a 7.3 and it was noisy and had cold idle issues that Courtesy was clueless to fix. Not to mention, the new paint on the hood cracked in the sun and required a repaint. Call me Yota spoiled.

All domestic trucks like this have auto transmission issues and front brake issues.
SERIOUSLY? Ugh. That badly built??

Beater 05-07-2012 01:50 PM

oh - stroker fan here, but not that travesty of a second generation motor. get the new one, or the older 7.3.

especially the king ranch if you can find one.

as to steve's comments, yes all domestics suck at the brake and slushbox, even the allison with the chebby. HOWEVER, most of it can be attributed to driver error or at least say the manufacturers.

With the fords and chebbys, like the toyota's, turn off your overdrive in harsh conditions and life is better.

dodges have very low build quality.

RockRunner 05-07-2012 02:01 PM

I will give you my info later when I have a normal keyboard. Biggest question is how much do you want to spend, that decides what you can buy and what we need discuss as far as year and model.

wesintl 05-07-2012 02:10 PM

my 50c is the dodges are loud and ride rough and everything falls apart except for the cummins. The duramax's are quieter and ride much better. Nothin on Ferd's

Red_Chili 05-07-2012 03:06 PM

Interesting, apparently the Allison auto is the most reliable of the bunch. Besides a manual. I can just picture Lise driving a manual diesel truck with a camper.



Red_Chili 05-07-2012 03:18 PM

aaaauuuuggghhhhhh...... (OK, just how DO you spell Homer drooling?)

@Tom, prices around 100K miles on cars.com look to be in the budget more or less.

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