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pmccumber 08-31-2009 08:10 AM

Why Craigslist Search Is Gonna Stay
 
The way it is. I've received lots of input that I should put adwords in there or other possibilities for exploring revenue streams. One of my better friends who happens to roll in obscenely rich circles ran into a leader from Craigslist and he told him that they will not tolerate those who try to use their site in ways they don't approve. Very utopian mantra from these cats.

But here is a snippet about how Craigslist dealt with some people who were scraping their site in the past from this weeks Wired Magazine:

Buckmaster's dispassionate protest reflects his cast of mind. Emotional appeals are more likely to provoke his skepticism than his sympathy, and when the complaints come from aspiring Internet entrepreneurs he is especially prone to sarcasm. He hears many such complaints, because one of the most curious things about craigslist is that a company designed and run entirely by programmers is so hostile to outsiders who want to pull neat technical tricks to improve the site. A few years ago, independent programmer Jeff Atwood created a service that would allow people to search multiple cities at once or even search craigslist globally. Buckmaster arranged some technical interference to kill it off. Another programmer named Ryan Sit created a service called Listpic, which scraped images from craigslist and dumped them into an interface for browsing: You could scan through all the photos from the apartment listings or see pictures of all the dogs up for adoption. Buckmaster banished Listpic, too.

He had specific objections to both. Listpic ran ads, it put a high burden on craigslist servers, and when he looked at traffic records he noticed that Listpic was being used mainly to enhance enjoyment of the sexy images people posted in their erotic-services ads. Universal search subverts craigslist's mission to enable local, face-to-face transactions; it increases the risk of scams and can be exploited to snatch up bargains, giving technically sophisticated users an advantage over casual browsers. But the very surfeit of these practical objections—many of which probably have technical solutions—hints that the real explanation lies elsewhere, and with a minimum of pressure Buckmaster will state it plainly. It is the same reason that craigslist has never done any of the things that would win approval among Web entrepreneurs, the same reason he has never updated its 1999-era Web design. The reason is that craigslist's users are not asking for such changes.


Paul

MDH33 08-31-2009 08:14 AM

I use your search app all the time! great upgrade. :thumb:

pmccumber 08-31-2009 08:18 AM

Thanks. Although I've always had the fear that some day somebody is gonna crack down on my IP. This article only confirms that.

Chris 08-31-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccumber (Post 117384)
Very utopian mantra from these cats.

For good reason, if you were Craig you'd want to protect it too. ;)

corsair23 08-31-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDH33 (Post 117388)
I use your search app all the time! great upgrade. :thumb:

Ditto

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccumber (Post 117389)
Thanks. Although I've always had the fear that some day somebody is gonna crack down on my IP. This article only confirms that.

Let's hope not :( - I like to be able to search all of Colorado for instance...That isn't discouraging face-to-face interaction IMO, just opening up more opportunity to both buyers, and sellers.

Hulk 08-31-2009 12:41 PM

It sounds like to me that as long as your app stays small in use and doesn't include ads, you'll probably be OK. It's a great tool.

lfd270ben 09-03-2009 04:16 PM

I use your app all the time also its how I found my Harley for so cheap Awesome keepit going.Is there any way you can make the program able to search the whole country also So you dont have to search state by state?

pmccumber 09-04-2009 01:11 PM

Actually, that is part of what this post is about. I think Craig is barely putting up with me. I would be extremely easy actually. Seriously, I bet it would be 5 minutes of programming. But the day I expose that, my IP is sourcing 100x more hits on their server and I'm blocked. I'm already serving 3,000+ unique users a day. So I'm gonna chill where it is.

chtucker 09-04-2009 03:39 PM

I hope that your utility sticks around.... its the best around... I use it every day.

jacdaw 09-04-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfd270ben (Post 117794)
I use your app all the time also its how I found my Harley for so cheap Awesome keep it going.Is there any way you can make the program able to search the whole country also So you don't have to search state by state?

If you want to cast a larger net, use Google and format your search like this: "search-terms site:craigslist.org". It would suck if Paul's traffic went up on the CL servers and his IP got blocked. I have enjoyed making use of the tool. Thanks Paul!


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