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Corbet 01-20-2012 12:53 PM

What went wrong?
 
I stumbled across this on youtube today and though I would post it for discussion. Its not a terribly hard obstacle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX6Zo...450DE73FB28854

But things went wrong very fast. Discussion on how to avoid this and then what to do after.

Recovery video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S-zY...eature=related

Uncle Ben 01-20-2012 01:23 PM

His skill set was the biggest issue! He had already made it up the toughest part of the Golden Stairs. This is a good post Corbet because it shows a very common mistake, he was done and thought he was in the clear. He got aggressive in celebration and that's when things went south!
On the recovery. Another very easy to make mistake took place. The strap on the pulling winch needed to be attached to the passenger side and wrapped over the roof so when the winch was pulling it would roll the vehicle rather than slide it towards the winch.

They did a lot of things correctly! I was expecting the Xterra to take off in reverse when it landed on the wheels. That is sooooooo common and easy of a mistake to do....not making sure the vehicle is in gear or in Park.

84cruzer 01-20-2012 04:44 PM

Seems like he has no lockers or they are not engaged? And gets a little happy with the skinny pedal. :hill: When the trail leader or spotter noticed him getting out perhaps he should have been offered a strap and a small tug. No shame in getting through a tough trail with your rig in one piece.

corsair23 01-20-2012 04:56 PM

The description states the front was locked :confused:

I just watched it again and the guy getting back in the rig and rolls it is not the same guy who seems to be claiming the rig as his (the guy with the white tshirt kneeling by the truck with sandals on) towards the end but it is hard to tell who is talking etc.

wesintl 01-20-2012 04:57 PM

he puts his hand out the window :eek:

corsair23 01-20-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesintl (Post 201401)
he puts his hand out the window :eek:

According to the description, those were his feet :rolleyes: - something about the fact that he couldn't get his seatbelt reconnected...

Corbet 01-20-2012 06:09 PM

I posted it as its a good example of an inexperienced driver in Moab. Something we get a fair share of every year and that's great. But we as trail leaders need to ID them and do our jobs to prevent events like this to the best of our abilities. What always amazes me is how fast it happens on the high traction slickrock surfaces. I also think the recovery was pretty good. As Kevin pointed out could have been better.

84cruzer 01-20-2012 07:05 PM

Another example of how fast things can go wrong....
 
And it is such a clean old CJ too..... :hill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y7kAu6JlsU

rover67 01-20-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84cruzer (Post 201417)
And it is such a clean old CJ too..... :hill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y7kAu6JlsU

she hit her head.

84cruzer 01-20-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rover67 (Post 201421)
she hit her head.

"Agreed" that little vanity roll bar did little to nothing to keep them safe.


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