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nakman 04-01-2012 11:06 PM

spares and tools
First question for those of you who carry a tube with you on your bike, do you also have CO2 or something? Or a bike pump? how are you getting air into that tube... :confused:

farnhamstj 04-01-2012 11:23 PM

Mountain bike hand pump. Works great. I carry a patch kit and spare 21" tube and 3 tire levers. After the first few flats, it's just like doing a mountain bike tire, except worse.

subzali 04-02-2012 08:47 AM

Crossing my fingers, haven't gotten any flats yet. I have a mini mtb pump, that is bad enough to pump up a mtb tire. I can't imagine how horrible it would be to pump up a moto tire. Nak, I'm planning on carrying CO2 someday when I get my tire repair kit together, and maybe a hand pump as backup.

nakman 04-02-2012 09:45 AM

I carried C02 on my mountain bike for a few years.. finally had the chance to use it coming down Porcupine rim once. Somewhere between the cartridge, its dispenser nozzle, my presta valve adapter, and the new tube, I didn't have a good seal and pfffft.. borrowed someone's pump. Probably won't go down that road again.

I'm still struggling with where to mount all this stuff.

subzali 04-02-2012 09:57 AM

yep, CO2 takes practice and you never know how many flats you are going to get, so that's why I've been carrying my hand pump as a backup. But if you ride with friends you could coordinate that and save weight/bulk. I just have a backpack with water, tools, etc. for now. Would like to come up with some "saddle bags" eventually.

Beater 04-02-2012 11:00 AM

on the small wheels - I carry a tube and a small pump. On the big bikes, (road) I carry health insurance and supplemental insurance as well as towing and recovery coverage, as when I have a flat, it's probably going to put me in the hospital if it happens fast enough. LOL

DaveInDenver 04-02-2012 11:01 AM

Can't say how it relates to motos, but I have found a few things out riding and bike patrolling.

One is that CO2 is the bees knees racing but never rely on it if you're going far enough that walking back is going to be tough. I'll also use them for local rides, particularly after work, when time is limited. I always still carry a pump, even racing. But I mostly endurance race, so finding yourself at the half way point of a 111K enduro means you could be walking a long way back to the last aid station or a road.

Anyway, I think this Planet Bike pump might work well for you guys. It's really a mini floor pump. The little foot stand really does help and it has an actual tube, although a short one, that takes the pressure off the valve stem. It's sorta bulky for bicycles but might be a good option for you guys. It's too big to frame mount and better to carry in a backpack anyway.



FWIW, since going to tubeless the use of pumps has gone down a whole, whole bunch... On the flip side, reseating a bead is pretty much impossible without CO2 and even then it's only if star align. So I just plan on putting in a tube if I rip a sidewall.

rover67 04-02-2012 11:28 AM

I have a bike pump that works really well that I carry on the bike and plan to carry on the motorcycle:


I used to carry CO2 but after using this pump a ton I only carry CO2 as a backup to the pump or like Dave says when I am in a hurry.

I have use that Lezyne a ton and it still is working well. I wouldn't get their CO2 inflators though, they suck.

I will carry a few of these as backup to the pump on the motorcycle:


Then a patch kit and a 21" tube.

baja1d 04-02-2012 05:42 PM

CO2 works great to inflate the majority of the tire but use a mini pump to finish it off. I use to just rely on the CO2 but we got into distance riding which comes with multiple flats. On our last trip we changed 4 flats and rode the 5th one back 20 miles w/o any air... It sucked but it comes with the territory. At any rate, the two problems we ran into with the CO2 canister is #1 limited supply and #2 the canister piercing portion of the inflation device is rather flimsey. The first one broke imediately but unfortunately we didn't realize the issue until we had burned up two more canisters. The second device lasted longer but eventually broke. The one I currently own has lasted for years but I gently seat the canister into the inflation device now and generally pause my swearing episode until I know I haven't F'd it up. I too only carry a front tube, however, I keep it in a ziplock bag and throw some baby powder in the bag before I seal it closed. The powder helps lubricate the tube when inflating the tire and allows the tube to move when riding. My "pinch" flats have been drastically reduced since implamenting this technique. To be perfectly honest, the only time I actually put a rear tube in the rear tire is when I'm at home installing a brand new rear tire. Otherwise, it's a "trail side" front tube into the rear until I buy a new tire at the begining of the next season.


nakman 04-02-2012 05:57 PM

Cool tip with the baby powder!

So ok to ask a dumb question, you just carry a spare front tube? And if you get a rear flat just shove the front tube in back? I guess that's what Farnham said by 21"... sorry just clicking in now. :o

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