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rockrod 08-25-2012 04:23 PM

Is anyone into it on this forum? I am about ready to pull the trigger on a norco shore 3. From what I have read, it's a good entry level bike.


Corbet 08-25-2012 05:34 PM

Can't comment on the bike you listed but are you trying to decide between a FR or a DH bike? Personally I'd go FR unless you are committed to riding lifts every time you want to get any saddle time.

My FR bike is a Cannondale Gemini. Its pretty old now but still rides nice. I upgraded the fork and rear shock. I'm on a single crown fork to keep the overall weight manageable uphill. I've got 170mm front and rear.

Angel Fire Ski Area in NM has an excellent FR park by the way.

rockrod 08-25-2012 10:04 PM

Yeah I am leaning more towards freeride. It's a ton of fun!

ScooterFJ40 08-27-2012 10:43 PM

I've been riding DH for a few years, Norco makes a decent bike. All my race buddies run high end brands like Santa Cruz, Kona, etc. - but they're sponsored and practically get the bikes for free.

If you ever want to ride some fairly level trails or XC stuff, go with a FR. I'm bad about only taking the lift up, crankin my Haro up a hill blows usually.

euroford 08-28-2012 10:39 AM

Getting into freeride/dh around here is a very very good idea. I've been a season pass holder at winter park for four years, and the place has taken off the last couple of years offering up a ton of trails of almost every style and type. Not to mention Sol Vista, Anglefire, keystone and others for when you want something different.

That Norco would definitely get your feet wet, but it is a pretty low-end build package and only a 6" travel bike. you'll definitely be left wanting to upgrade about everything if you ride it a lot. but, it is a solid frame from a good company and will get your started if thats all you can invest. save some cash for that winter park season pass :)

I ride a transition bottlerocket, 6" in the front and 5.5" in the back. its an awesome freeride bike and i ride everything with it, but it is seriously lacking when things get steep, super fast or super rocky. its perfect for jump trails like "rainmaker" where it feels more like a super duper dirtjump bike. i also do a lot of dirtjumping so that works well for me.

but... when i ride the steep, rocky or mega fast trails, the geo and short travel leaves you VERY VERY little margin for error, if you get off the line or make a mistake be ready for a quick launch over the bars.

as a short travel FR bike, i've tried to make it a 'do all' machine by running an adjustable seatpost and hammerschmidt, but its not panned out to make too much sense. to survive a day at a resort, I have to run 2.5" DH tires that bring my weight to 42 pounds. post season i can swap to lightweight tubeless tires and drop it to 34 pounds. mostly i just ride my 29er instead.

if i wasn't spending all of my money on other things (new house... heep... lawyers...) i would buy a 7" travel free ride specific rig or an 8" travel world cup downhill type rig and swap the bottlerockets parts over to a covert frame for use as a fun 'all mountain' rig.

If i was to make a recommendation for the best lift serviced freeride bike for the front range, i'd say go with a Transition TR250.

or... since we only have about a 4 weeks of downhill ridding left, why don't you just join me at winter park and i can get you a 50% discount on a rental or demo bike, and you can try some stuff out.


bustanutley 08-28-2012 03:41 PM

This is what I tell all my friends who eventually decide they want to join me on the “slopes” during the summer months.

If you want a DH bike do not compromise, the bikes that people claim that can be pedaled up hill and be fun at the bike parks and/or be a jack of all trades suck at everything. The geo will be wack, it will be cumbersome, heavy and have an identity crisis with the parts spec’d. To maximize fun especially living in Colorado with all our bike parks, get a legit DH bike with modern low slack geometry. A friend of mine almost bought a yeti 7 (stupid bike) and I talked him out of it with the same pep talk, got him to go into mojo wheels and they got him into a brand new nice special ed demo for a very reasonable figure. He is in love. The best thing to do is demo a bunch of bikes at the parks and form your opinion about which bike suits you. I would personally pass on the shore... The transition above is a very nice ride but I would suggest the longer travel TR450 for CO especially for a newer rider. I ride a very similar bike and love it very much.

rockrod 08-28-2012 09:32 PM

I appreciate the input. It sounds like I need to demo some more bikes are get educated on what's out there.

I am not new to mountain biking but I have been out of the scene for about 10 years, and a lot has changed. I also have done very little resort riding, but the little I have done has been super fun. My experience has been pretty much all cross country.

The shore was appealing due to its low cost entry level status to get my feet wet, but maybe it's best to hold out and save some cash to get a better bike.


Corbet 08-28-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bustanutley (Post 217544)

If you want a DH bike do not compromise, the bikes that people claim that can be pedaled up hill and be fun at the bike parks and/or be a jack of all trades suck at everything.

I disagree. I really enjoy my Cannondale Gemini. I can ride it up or down. Is it a DH bike on the downhill, no. Is it a XC bike going up, hell no. But it does not require a lift to ride, no. If gravity is going to be your thing and you can live at the lift buy a DH. You'll just need another bike to ride elsewhere. Really its just about having fun.

In the end you'll need a lot of bikes ;) For starters...

XC mountain
Tandem (if you have a partner)

This is the most fun on two wheels without a motor IMO. Ventana soft tail on Slickrock.

rockrod 08-28-2012 10:49 PM

Funny you mention the road bike. My wife has no interest in dh so she wants me to get a road bike so that we can ride together. This is going to get expensive.

smslavin 08-29-2012 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by bustanutley (Post 217544)
I would suggest the longer travel TR450 for CO

I've been looking hard at that bike for next summer but I'm in a conundrum between it and Yeti's 303. Probably going to wind up with the TR though. Bummed I didn't have any gear with me when we were in Telluride or I would have demo'd one. Probably for the best though, as I'm sure that if I demo'd it, I would have tried to bring it home.


Originally Posted by Corbet
In the end you'll need a lot of bikes

Ha! It's just like skis and surfboards. :D I've got my road bike and SS hard tail. Track bike is coming whenever they decided to finish the track in Erie. I've got a parts pile started for a 6" full squish. Then, there'll be the DH bike. Weeeeeee!

That Ventana looks like a hoot.

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