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MDH33 11-20-2013 01:58 PM

5VZFE question
 
Anyone with a 5VZFE had the timing belt slip? If so, what were the symptoms?

My dad has a 4runner and just had the timing belt done and it was running fine then suddenly made a noise, started running badly, missing, etc. He took it to the shop that did the belt and they said no compression on #1. :confused: My guess was the belt failed, but the compression thing has me confused.

nakman 11-20-2013 02:18 PM

if the timing is off, then the exhaust valves could be opening up too early? But why would that just be on one cylinder. Just a guess obviously.

On one of the Tacos we owned when I had the timing belt done the shop said my old one was off by a tooth. I didn't notice a difference though, after they corrected that.

AxleIke 11-20-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nakman (Post 242374)
if the timing is off, then the exhaust valves could be opening up too early? But why would that just be on one cylinder. Just a guess obviously.

On one of the Tacos we owned when I had the timing belt done the shop said my old one was off by a tooth. I didn't notice a difference though, after they corrected that.

^ That'd be my guess on the compression. Robbie, Squishy or thefatkid will hopefully chime in.

I'd guess they mucked up the tensioner. Never had that happen in any of the 5vz trucks (fam has 4 of them). Did they do anything else while they were in there?

powderpig 11-20-2013 04:23 PM

All the shop needs to do is remove the plastic covers to see if the cam's are timed right. Should not be a real big thing. If the cams are not timed right, they would of found the problem. Wonder why they made the choice to check compression? seems like a waste of time, unless they already pulled the plastic covers to inspect the cam timing.

MDH33 11-20-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by powderpig (Post 242381)
All the shop needs to do is remove the plastic covers to see if the cam's are timed right. Should not be a real big thing. If the cams are not timed right, they would of found the problem. Wonder why they made the choice to check compression? seems like a waste of time, unless they already pulled the plastic covers to inspect the cam timing.

Yeah, not sure why they checked the compression either, which made me suspicious. I told him to call back and confirm they checked the timing belt. I also said it might be worth taking it to another shop. (He's in Michigan).

Would the timing belt failing or slipping cause a compression issue?

DaveInDenver 11-21-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MDH33 (Post 242387)
Yeah, not sure why they checked the compression either, which made me suspicious. I told him to call back and confirm they checked the timing belt. I also said it might be worth taking it to another shop. (He's in Michigan).

Would the timing belt failing or slipping cause a compression issue?

Yes. If the cam timing is wrong the valves are opening at the wrong time in the cycle and yields low or zero compression. Not sure checking the compression is any easier than just inspecting the timing belt on a 5VZ, but it's a valid check for a slipped belt or chain. If the mechanic works on lots of brands he may not be super familiar with the 5VZ, though, and sometimes a compression check is actually easier. If it broke the engine wouldn't run at all, I'd guess Isaac is probably right about the tensioner if all that was done was a belt and maybe water pump.

MDH33 11-22-2013 08:42 AM

So, the shop pulled the oil pan and the #1 rod is broken... Engine is toast and it only has 92,000 miles on it. :mad: I feel like such a chump because I talked my dad into buying this thing and raved about how reliable these 3.4's are.... His first Toyota (and his last I'm sure).

Anyone have a good 3.4 for sale?

DaveInDenver 11-22-2013 09:03 AM

Wow, that's not encouraging to hear. Do you know any history on the engine?

MDH33 11-22-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveInDenver (Post 242518)
Wow, that's not encouraging to hear. Do you know any history on the engine?

Not really. He bought it last year from a dealer. No warranty. I was skeptical of the low mileage but it looked pretty immaculate. Carfax seemed to corroborate the mileage.

If no one has a good 3.4, any suggestions/recommendation on where to get a rebuilt short block?

nakman 11-22-2013 09:22 AM

Broken connecting rod? that seems almost unheard of.. dang, sorry Martin. too bad he's not closer, he could borrow the 3.4 that's down the street for a bit while you sort this out ;)


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