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Romer 10-29-2006 01:28 PM

I don;t care much for either choice for Governer. Are either one of them better or worse for off road stuff?

treerootCO 10-29-2006 04:27 PM

I only see my governor around 110 :D

MDH33 10-30-2006 07:26 AM

I would not vote for Beauprez. He's all about more development and leasing all of our public lands to oil and gas companies. To me, that means more land that will be off limits.

sno bored 10-30-2006 08:27 AM

Romer, I think you did a pretty good job a few years ago.

Romer 10-30-2006 08:33 AM

I have often wondered if I did run for office if I would get votes just because of my last name. I don't want to be in Politics though.

wesintl 10-30-2006 08:54 AM

I haven't decided either...

I'm not under the assumption that leasing public lands to gas and oil companies means it's off limits. If drilling means less need for foreign product, then i'm all for it.


As part of my vision for Colorado in the 21st century, I will be a strong participant in the process that follows the work of the Roadless Area Review Task Force. The task force will recommend which of the more than 4 million federal roadless forest lands in Colorado should remain protected, and I will advocate for a balanced, common-sense approach to land management.

It's also critically important that Colorado's next Governor is willing to fight for public access to our public lands. We're blessed to have so m

Red_Chili 10-30-2006 09:24 AM

I do see oil and gas as sometimes being mutually exclusive to off roading. Witness, for instance, Iron Chest. We are really lucky they returned it to its former condition, but many of our roads go to mines and other exploration and can be closed at a whim, like Gillespie for instance.

It's pretty depressing. On one hand, you have a party that is beholden to special interests (not our special interest!) and will shut down public access if they see a reason to, in order to further their idealistic values and if their supporters want it.

Then you have the Democrat party..., :eek: :lmao:

Uncle Ben 10-30-2006 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by treerootCO
I only see my governor around 110 :D

Time to rechip that dog! :D ;)

Seldom Seen 10-30-2006 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by wesintl
I haven't decided either...

I'm not under the assumption that leasing public lands to gas and oil companies means it's off limits. If drilling means less need for foreign product, then i'm all for it.

I would agree with you IF it was worth the cost. But the geologists for the state DNR have estimated, at the current rate of consumption, *IF* all the oil under Colorado could be extracted and refined into gasoline, it would amount to a 1 week supply.

None of the extraction business operating in this state are Colorado owned and most are foreign owned. The extraction industry pays billions of $$ a year, in royalties, to the state and (mostly) federal government. Royalties paid by the extraction companies is put into the state and federal general funds. By the time it trickles down into local land managers budgets it doesn't cover the cost of the improvements (read roads) that land managers build to allow the extraction industry access to the mineral resources. There is no guarantee that any roads created will remain open for recreation. There is millions$$ of backlog of maintenance on roads that are open for recreational use. What little money land managers have would be put to better use maintaining and reconnecting Colorado's recreational roads and trails.

In 1988 recreational tourism surpassed extraction as CO's #1 industry, and has seen steady sustainable growth ever since. The $$$'s contributed directly to CO's economy and The full time year round jobs created by, the recreational use of Arapaho/Roosevelt National forest alone is more than the extraction industries contribution from the entire state. Add in the recreation/tourism $$ from CO's other National Forests and you can see CO's greatest natural resource is above ground and not beneath it.

Red_Chili 10-31-2006 09:23 AM

As long as we can actually access it.

Which depends of course on our ability to articulate its worth, as Brian has admirably done.

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