thanks guys, i am really happy with it! as far as cost goes as the saying goes if you have to ask it is probably too much, we worked out what we both felt was fair for a project this size, he spent 285 hours and we used 12 sticks of DOM (he had amazingly little waste, like 6 feet or something) we figured it added between 280 to 300 lbs? so far i have not noticed any issues with stability or any change in how it handles, i too hope to never use it but i wanted to add uniqieness too my rig and i believe this achieveid just that! as well as assurance. thanks Scott,i love my crawler too and use it all the time, much better wheel control!