that really helps calrify it for me and explains why Nakman believed the "2 meter only" antenna reached out better, because it probably does. But at the cost on not being to do 70 CM.
for the extra 45 bucks i believe i will go with the FT-8900 and start with a dual band antenna mounted on the rear hatch.
It is all new and interesting at the moment. It may be i want to carry a 2M dual band and quad band antenna at some point just to have options, but baby steps for now.....