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Old 01-11-2010, 06:38 PM
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Ah good stuff Cardinal. I wasn't going to get into that lesson yet. One step at a time.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:10 AM
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Default so true, so true.

Hehe...after I typed that, I was thinking, "did I say too much??". I probably shouldn't divulge alllll the cool tricks, not yet anyway.

This new forum is gonna be fun! Taking lots of pictures is definitely my new obsession.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:24 PM
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I appreciated what you said very much. My brain is full of "how do I do this...?"

It made me think of the photo we took at Mt. Rushmore this last summer. The background is sharp; we in the foreground are soft. It's not as obvious with the photo in a web-friendly size, but it's really bad at full size.

There was something I could have adjusted with the aperture to fix this right?

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Old 01-12-2010, 06:14 PM
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Yup the great science of aperature. Hard to fathom for some. difficult for the rest. The general rule of thumb is this 1/3 front -2/3 behind the subject. Now the tricky part is this gets "deeper" with the bigger the number on the aperture ring. On older lenses there are numbers on either side of the focus line on top of the lense. these numbers show corresponding to the "depth of field" on the lense. On newer lenses these numbers on top of the lense don't exist anymore so you kind of have to just learn what they are. Also on most camers there is a depth of field preview button usually located on the lower front of the body the you would activate with your right hand finger.

so bigger the f stop the bigger the depth of field. And with thirds rule you can cheat this distance by putting your subject in a different place than what the camera wants to focus on. Best practice is on a long fence.

this is probably the hardest concept in Photography. Read more from the Art Wolfe book that you have from me. It should help.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:20 PM
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It all depends on what you're after. And pleasing to your eye. There is no right or wrong until you get to the big boys which I have spent some time with. Then you will learn what is right and wrong. But knowing a few rules will make your shots more pleasing to you and your viewers. Someday I'll learn how to put shots into these posts so I can show you all some things I have learned. But I don't know how to do that yet.
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Dave, thanks for posting all the samples. So do I have this right? The smaller the aperture, the greater the depth of field, which would have improved my Mt. Rushmore photo. And the smaller the aperture, the larger the f-stop: f2.8 is large (wide open to let in lots of light) while f32 is very small.

Now I need to figure out how to manually control my aperture while allowing the camera and lens to work the rest of its magic.
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I'll use either my 85mm/1.8 or my 50mm/1.4 for portrait stuff. on my DX format the 50mm is more like a 75mm so I can be further from the subject (more comfortable for them) and get a nice perspective (no horse faces nor really flat). the nice thing with a fast lens, is that you can shoot the protrait at like f2.2/2.8/3.5 and get a nice Bokeh in the background.
Which 50mm/1.4 did you buy? I see two nice AF 50mm lenses on B&H:

AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G
AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

I have a couple of fixed lenses that are my faves:

AF Nikkor 50mm/1.8
AF Nikkor 35mm/2 (current fave)

These are older lenses, not the D series.
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You guys really seem to know your stuff. I need to bring one or more of you to Vail to catch some action shots. My friend's camera phone just ain't cuttin' it.
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Other than the speed I think you have two very fine lenses and certainly much better photographers have made much, much better images with lesser glass. Most people feel the 50/1.4 and 35/1.4 give up a little optically over the 50/1.8 and 35/2.0 for their speed. So unless you find you need the extra 1/2 stop a lot, it's often money better spent elsewhere.
Dave, thanks for all of this. I was curious as to how much of a difference a 1.4 would make over a 1.8. Sounds like at my skill level, not much.

Your Germany pictures are outstanding. Do you scan everything yourself or get scans from the developing place you use?
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:27 PM
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Default go with the 1.8 for sure.

for the money, the 35mm 1.8 can't be beat. I have the 50 1.4 and used to have the 1.8...I rarely shoot the 1.4 wide open cuz it get a tad soft on the edges. but at 1.8 and up it's SHARP! the 1.8 was sharp from f2/f2.2 up. a negligable difference at that.

save your dough go 1.8.
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