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Old 01-27-2010, 10:44 AM
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forgot "the art of racing in the rain" that was a good one I actually finished a few weeks ago as well. I'd recommend that one.

not what it seems like it is from the title..
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No wonder it's depressing you.
http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html


Ya need to read other schtuff too!


That's the definition of advocacy history (and journalism too, BTW).

I do understand the value of postmodern thought in puncturing the illusion of rationalistic objectivity - such objectivity not only defies what we know about phenomenology, it goes against what quantum mechanics is discovering - but this goes waaaaaaaaay beyond that.
Meh, I've read other stuff. This is a refreshingly different take, and IMO, quite good.

His socialist trappings are easy to identify, and avoid if you wish. This isn't really one of his "become a socialist" books. Its simply a more realistic view of Americain History: The rich crapping on the poor, over, and over again. He does try to make a point of leading the reader to conclude that a different form of government might have produced a different history, but again, its easy to ignore.

I've always known that capitalism works so well because it is based on the fact that, as humans, we are all out for ourselves, and we'll step on whoever, and betray anyone to get to the top. Zinn makes the point ad naseum in his book, which isn't why I'm reading. I could care less about his political agenda.

It is nice to step outside the normal view of our history, that of heroic founding fathers, and a fair, almost utopian, society, and visit the darker side of our history.
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:18 AM
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Hmm....read a VERY depressing statistic yesterday...said only 30% of people *ever* read a book cover to cover after they graduate high school. I would like to see the research on that for verification, but it feels like a relatively true statement. Very sad...

Been averaging a couple of books a week lately, mostly reading about how disgusting our food really is, and reading about how to scale up my gardening to provide healthy food for more people...I probably should start a thread on the Politics Forum...but our food supply is downright scary...


Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal - Joel Salatin

Holy Cows and Hog Heaven - Joel Salatin

Omnivore's Dilemma - Michael Pollan (read this last year but reading the Young Reader's edition with Olivia, Amber's oldest daughter)

Food, Inc. - ~Eric Schlosser, various others

Just Food: Where Locavores Get It Wrong - James McWilliams I love to read the opposite viewpoint when I am learning about new ideas, and his "opposite" viewpoint is not all that different, but brought up some very interesting ideas I had not considered.

Wolf at the Table: Memoir of my Father - Augusten Burroughs

Some "boring" books on Organic Gardening by Elliot Coleman, Raising Chickens, and random business books.

Did I mention my new house is across he street from the library, and I think I have 27 books checked out right now?

Of course at bedtime I read a LOT of Dr. Seuss and Clifford...
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Histophysiology, medical physiology, immunology, and other assorted text books. I wouldn't be opposed to the authors throwing in a little murder mystery to liven things up.
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Been averaging a couple of books a week lately, mostly reading about how disgusting our food really is, and reading about how to scale up my gardening to provide healthy food for more people...I probably should start a thread on the Politics Forum...but our food supply is downright scary...
Check out the documentary "Food Inc."

As unnerving as it is, I still have no misgivings about eating a Big Mac.
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Check out the documentary "Food Inc."

As unnerving as it is, I still have no misgivings about eating a Big Mac.
I have not seen it yet. I still have no problems eating meat, but greatly prefer eating it from other, more humane and more nutritious and safer sources. Better to take this to the political forum, don't want to hijack this thread!!

"Death on a Family Farm" is a very interesting documentary on HBO right now also.

Also read this after seeing the show "100 Mile Diet" on Planet Green.
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It is nice to step outside the normal view of our history, that of heroic founding fathers, and a fair, almost utopian, society, and visit the darker side of our history.
You might consider a few other books, then. These take the non-mainstream view on the subjects. Lincoln for one benefits greatly from popular revisionist history (the cult of Lincoln as it's referred).

"Lincoln Unmasked" by Tom DiLorenzo
"A Century of War" by John Denson
"Defending the Undefendable" by Walter Block
"Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War" by Pat Buchanan
"Hamilton's Curse" by Tom DiLorenzo
"Reassessing the Presidency" collection of essays edited by John Denson
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Thanks Dave!

Lincoln isn't too nicely portray'd in Zinn's book either.

The next book on my shelf is "The Road to Montecello". A bit of a look at TJ for a while. I'll look into those books you mentioned too, though I may need to read some from the "other side of the fence" for a bit to pick my spirits back up!
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Books?? Like the kind that used to be made out of paper?? sooo 2009...



Why open a book when you can download and read them on your $500 battery powered device?
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