Rising Sun Member Forums  

Go Back   Rising Sun Member Forums > Toyota 4x4 > General Tech Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-07-2012, 03:01 PM
Fishy's Avatar
Fishy Fishy is offline
Rising Sun Event Coordinator
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 1,177
Default Wheel bearing? Or something else?

I was gonna bring this up tonight, but I'm in the garage right now trying to figure it out. Here's the back story...

Had my tires rotated a few days ago. Since then, I feel like something is loose on my left front wheel. I checked lugs, pulled the wheel, pulled the front shock and inspected, checked everything for play, reinstalled the wheel and I can feel just a little play while holding the wheel at the 12 and 6 o'clock positions. Thinking a wheel bearing?

But, I've got no noise, no hum at any speed, figure 8's in both directions with no trouble. I can feel the slight vibration over small bumps, right below my feet. I feel nothing when driving through the dip from my driveway to the street. Only small bumps that cause vibration. It feels like loose lugs. Body mounts are tight on that side as well. Tires don't even have 5k on them.

I'm just about to pull the PS wheel and check that shock and all bushings. There is no 12-6 oclock play on that side, just DS.

Could that tiny amount of play from my DS wheel translate to the floorboard and front end and make everything feel so loose? I'm working on limited mechanical knowledge, so any ideas would help. I'll be at the meeting tonight, so I'll bring this up again, feel free to drive my truck down the road and help me diagnose.

Thanks!
__________________
Stan
UZJ100 (Non-White Edition)

TLCA Social Media
100's in the Hills website
"What's that? I can't hear you over my heated seats"-KW
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-07-2012, 03:54 PM
Red_Chili's Avatar
Red_Chili Red_Chili is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Littleton CO
Posts: 8,409
Default

Fix what you know to be wrong, then see what it does. Play in the wheel is not good. Wheel bearing, ball joints/kingpin/whatever you have there...
__________________
-Bill Morgan
Heb Dduw, heb ddim; Duw a digon
Abnormally aspirated
KDěRCH
Bio Page
I'm that gun-totin', farm-raised, evangelical, pro-environment, OHV ridin'/drivin', Southern civil rights pro-labor Liberal yo' momma told you couldn't possibly exist.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-07-2012, 04:52 PM
Fishy's Avatar
Fishy Fishy is offline
Rising Sun Event Coordinator
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 1,177
Default

Problem solved....
When I had the tires rotated, they lifted my truck on the lift and it moved my DS slider just a hair. Enough so that the forward most bracket (right under my foot) was just barely making contact with the body. Small bumps made the slider vibrate on the body and it felt like something was loose up front. Removed and replaced slider, no loose feeling.

The bonus is I inspected everything up front and found some very slight play that leads me to believe wheel bearings are needed. Guess I should have looked simple first.
__________________
Stan
UZJ100 (Non-White Edition)

TLCA Social Media
100's in the Hills website
"What's that? I can't hear you over my heated seats"-KW
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-07-2012, 05:13 PM
corsair23's Avatar
corsair23 corsair23 is offline
Rising Sun Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Littleton
Posts: 8,697
Default

Interesting and good detective work...

A lot of 80 owners suffer from the "clunk" during the winter when ice builds up between the sliders and the pinch weld/body. You'd swear your suspension is about to fall apart when it happens
__________________
Jeff Z. (the "not quite as skinny" one)
TLCA #17037
'97 LX450 - aka "The Whale"
'97 FZJ80 Antique Sage AE #267, stock
12/74 FJ40, 2F, SM420, 4" Lift, ARBs, 33" MTRs

:

"...anything else i can do for you guys, how about i wash your car or mow your lawn while you figure out your firewall system? I am now boarderline insane/unibomber." Kipper

"That assumes I'm even capable of pulling and stabbing..." Jacket

"I really like having a detachable unit." Beater
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-08-2012, 07:39 AM
Red_Chili's Avatar
Red_Chili Red_Chili is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Littleton CO
Posts: 8,409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishy View Post
Problem solved....
When I had the tires rotated, they lifted my truck on the lift and it moved my DS slider just a hair. Enough so that the forward most bracket (right under my foot) was just barely making contact with the body. Small bumps made the slider vibrate on the body and it felt like something was loose up front. Removed and replaced slider, no loose feeling.

The bonus is I inspected everything up front and found some very slight play that leads me to believe wheel bearings are needed. Guess I should have looked simple first.
Good fortune!

Does sound like you need to beef up the slider a bit though.
__________________
-Bill Morgan
Heb Dduw, heb ddim; Duw a digon
Abnormally aspirated
KDěRCH
Bio Page
I'm that gun-totin', farm-raised, evangelical, pro-environment, OHV ridin'/drivin', Southern civil rights pro-labor Liberal yo' momma told you couldn't possibly exist.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-08-2012, 08:28 AM
Fishy's Avatar
Fishy Fishy is offline
Rising Sun Event Coordinator
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 1,177
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Chili View Post
Good fortune!

Does sound like you need to beef up the slider a bit though.
Yeah, I thought I had them placed right and plenty tight, but if they moved slightly under the weight of my truck what's the point. I removed and reinstalled both sides yesterday, cranked em tight and I'll give them a field trial next week.
__________________
Stan
UZJ100 (Non-White Edition)

TLCA Social Media
100's in the Hills website
"What's that? I can't hear you over my heated seats"-KW
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-08-2012, 08:59 AM
subzali's Avatar
subzali subzali is online now
Rising Sun member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 7,385
Default

FYI, I don't know if 100 series front bearings are the same as 1st gen Tundra front bearings, but if they are I don't think they are serviceable and I don't think there is any preload that can be adjusted. They just have to be replaced if they're loose.
__________________
Matt Miller
"Stay the Trail," "Tread Lightly," and "Leave No Trace" ethics
TLCA# 13684
Rising Sun Bio
1977 FJ40 2F "Brahma" + Lockright, tach, Warn 8274, FJ60 Power Steering, soon to lose the Sanden OBA to go back to factory emissions
2000 Tundra Limited TRD 2UZ-FE SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-08-2012, 09:54 AM
DaveInDenver's Avatar
DaveInDenver DaveInDenver is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Larimer County
Posts: 6,387
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by subzali View Post
FYI, I don't know if 100 series front bearings are the same as 1st gen Tundra front bearings, but if they are I don't think they are serviceable and I don't think there is any preload that can be adjusted. They just have to be replaced if they're loose.
I believe that's true, the Tacoma, last couple of generation of 4Runner, Tundra, etc. (and I assume then 100 and 200 series) use sealed cartridge bearings and so the whole hub is R&R.
__________________
'91 Pickup

"Why does the U.S. care which flag will be hoisted on a small piece of land thousands of miles away?" -- Ron Paul
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.