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Old 10-09-2012, 10:57 AM
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That is a really interesting site.
Agreed! What does put a "bee in my bonnet" about it is the exemption for officials. I embrace the rangers and officers in the field but exempting them from being a-holes is not right! We were hunting in a trophy Bull area after putting in and waiting 12 years for the drawing. Some morons found a way in to the National Monument (Dinosaur) through a downed fence. When they got spotted the rangers went above and beyond and patrolled the fence line via ATV's and trucks. They continued to do it all week even after the dipsticks were caught. They completely changed the crossing patterns of the Elk herd and this law protects that? Laws should not exempt the elite!
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:20 AM
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That is a really interesting site.
No kidding. I had no idea it was illegal to use radios while hunting, particularly since they are marketed for that exact use.

http://www.cabelas.com/radios-garmin...-radio-1.shtml

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Old 10-09-2012, 01:02 PM
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No kidding. I had no idea it was illegal to use radios while hunting, particularly since they are marketed for that exact use.

http://www.cabelas.com/radios-garmin...-radio-1.shtml

I have not read the law on this one specifically but you should be able to use the radio while hunting as long as its not in an effort to hunt. Much like you can't drive animals into another hunter. But if its for "hey I just shot an elk please come and help me pack it out" I don't think there is an issue with that. But you can't use it to communicate "hey there are a lot of elk over here come and shoot one". At least that is the way I understand it.

I use my phone when hunting. Sometimes because I'm bored to surf the forum and then to summon the pack team to help me get an animal out. But never to give me any advantage during the hunt.

Back to the original question. I'd just avoid areas you know are being hunted and wear the same orange requirements that hunters are familiar with. That is what we area looking for. Personally I hunt in an area not used recreationally as it has no maintained points of access for the public.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:27 PM
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No kidding. I had no idea it was illegal to use radios while hunting, particularly since they are marketed for that exact use.

http://www.cabelas.com/radios-garmin...-radio-1.shtml

That was not stated! It only states that you can't "alarm, distract, or frighten prey and causes prey to flee by:
Use of any natural or artificial source of noise or light;"
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That was not stated! It only states that you can't "alarm, distract, or frighten prey and causes prey to flee by:
Use of any natural or artificial source of noise or light;"
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As with the use of motor vehicles, using radios or aircraft to spot wildlife and communicating via the radio the wildlife's location to another person is illegal. Anyone using a radio as an aid to hunting or pursuing wildlife shall be considered to be in violation of State Division Wildlife regulations. This violation is also a misdemeanor and has harsh penalties and possible hunting license suspensions if convicted. It is also unlawful to use any other type of electronic devices such as cell phones, instant messaging or email to communicate information on the whereabouts of game to another. This violation carries the same penalties as above.
I don't know what the actual law states but I never knew the above to be true...I mean, if I was hunting with a group and I knew where my partners were, and I saw a herd go by but I couldn't get a shot but I knew they were headed toward one or more of my buddies I wouldn't have thought that it was illegal to give them a call and give them a heads up. Maybe what they are trying to discourage is having "spotters" out there?
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:03 PM
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Exactly, Jeff. Sure seems like a little gray area to me.. you can use the radio to meet for lunch, or come help field dress what I just shot, but you wouldn't use it to communicate the potential location of an animal? From the Field Test...

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A partner and myself used a set of the Rino 120's on several different hunts this past year. Not only did they work great for communicating with each other over a variety of broken mountainous terrain, the GPS functionality was very simple to use and made easy work of finding camp and the truck. They were truly waterproof, as I got caught in some severe downpours that didn't affect the Rino in the slightest and the AA batteries lasted for several days under almost constant use.

While the radio and GPS functioned flawlessly, the best part was when I heard my partners' voice come over the Rino one afternoon. "Hey, I found a great draw over here with lots of sign, you want to come check it out?"

"Sure" I replied, "I see your position now and will be over in a bit - should only take me 20 minutes or so, see you then."
Someone school me on hunting terms. Does "a great draw over here with lots of sign, you want to come check it out" have anything to do with "using radios or aircraft to spot wildlife and communicating via the radio the wildlife's location to another person?" I really don't have a bone to pick here, just think it's kind of interesting.


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Wow! Interesting!!! I have two Rino's and we use them all the time, they are awesome! We really don't talk on them as much as we post up our positions on the GPS screen to each other. Good info!
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:28 PM
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Wow! Interesting!!! I have two Rino's and we use them all the time, they are awesome! We really don't talk on them as much as we post up our positions on the GPS screen to each other. Good info!
And I suspect that includes fishing too, eh? So you can yell to the boat next to you that they're biting good over here, just don't use that CB!
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Someone school me on hunting terms. Does "a great draw over here with lots of sign, you want to come check it out" have anything to do with "using radios or aircraft to spot wildlife and communicating via the radio the wildlife's location to another person?" I really don't have a bone to pick here, just think it's kind of interesting.
I would say that would most likely fall under the "...using a radio as an aid to hunting or pursuing wildlife shall be considered to be in violation of State Division Wildlife regulations." and be a no-no.

I can see why they don't want you using a plane to spot wildlife and direct in hunters (apparently Alaska doesn't have this law...for fishing anyway)...Or even using just a spotter. But if you are out hunting and spot sign of a herd or see movement and you pass that along to your buddies what is the big deal? I wonder if you are given the benefit of the doubt that you aren't doing just that if you get stopped by a DOW dude with your Rino and or cell phone
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:36 PM
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Tim, a "draw" refers to finger of a major drainage. Kind of like we would refer to a side canyon in Moab. Generally they have thicker vegetation due to water draining into them and more shade during the year. Most Elk and Deer will hide there during the day.

I think the law is there to keep a level playing field for all hunters as well as for the animals. Different states have different laws. I'm sure not all states prohibit radio communications like CO.

Every year out here I see increased small plane air traffic during hunting season. I know there are some breaking the rules. Well at least that's the way you feel watching them overhead all day anyway.
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