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Old 11-14-2012, 04:21 PM
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:00 PM
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Holy Cow! 16yo girls don't want to drive wagons or vans.

I drove a 2006 Sport Edition 4Runner before the 100. I think it would be a great vehicle for a new driver. The seating position is very "car like" which a lot of people like. Gas mileage was good at 20+ and I think it needs an a/t tire or snow tires to really be good in the winter. We had an 04' Volvo AWD S60 that was great in the snow and would be perfect for a first car. But, since you're leaning towards an SUV, how could you beat a 4th gen V6 4Runner?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:11 PM
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Holy Cow! 16yo girls don't want to drive wagons or vans.
Olivia does. On the swim team, rides horses, changed high schools to go to a school with better science and math so she can go to Vet school and be a large animal vet.

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:26 PM
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I'm talking vans like old school, and wagons like station wagons. I grew up in the country, trucks were cool and an almost "must have". Vans and wagons not so much.....well the Subaru wagons are pretty nice and I'm sure they're popular in high school parking lots.
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I'll throw my 2 cents in after surviving 3 kids learning to drive. There are 2 main peices of advice I would give based on my experience.

1. Insurance is a major concern with a new driver. Tonka gave some sound advice. I would recommend getting a vehicle that is old enough/crappy enough that you can insure with liability only. That will reduce premiums dramatically. Related to that, odds are very high your new driver will experience an accident, likely very minor, but we know how those costs rack up even in a small fender bender. Having liability only and sucking up the repair costs to just patch it back together to driveable after the inevitable crash will be far cheaper. Even my best driver had one accident. My worst, I literally can't remember or count the number, somewhere around 6 before she was 24.

2. One of the kid's learner vehicles was a stick shift and I have always been in the camp that believes everyone should have the ability to drive a stick. However, after watching a new driver behind the wheel and trying to manage a stick shift in addition to all the others things requiring attention while driving I decided that an auto is the better choice for a new driver. Attention is diverted from the driving task to the gear shifting task. Teach them stick after they've figured out how to handle things behind the wheel for awhile.
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I'll be honest I was an early learner (was driving stick off road when i was 13) but I still had issue coordinating street driving and all the vehicle controls at he same time. For a short while. When I got it down though I was leagues beyond other drivers. It forced me to focus on the road more carefully and I learned how dangerous added distractions could be. I NEVER text and drive. I even postpone answering my phone til I'm parked and I only had one accident in a parking lot (I was distracted ). I will be teaching my kids how to drive as soon as their feet can reach the pedals, maybe sooner (I'm thinkin Indiana Jones style blocks) all said and done RedChili had a couple heart attacks, but I'm convinced I've been a better driver because of it.
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