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Old 05-08-2013, 06:57 PM
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so, don't fall into this is what you're saying?

Yep. NOT falling in there would be good for a multitude of reasons.
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Nice. I always felt uneasy wandering around White Sands (Green River), but the experience was awesome!

I can go a week from Sunday if anyone is interested and will bring a calibrated 4 gas monitor.
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I found this to be interesting.
A quote from that page you linked: "Interestingly enough, there are NO signs of life anywhere in the whole complex; not even a rat or a spider. This may mean that it's just pretty well sealed, or it may mean something worse, that something is preventing things from living down there."

In my research of these sites over the past couple weeks, I've found that this seems to be a reoccurring theme in all the various reports from different explorers in all the sites. Leads me to believe that there are very toxic substances to be found below deck, on account of the fact that some of these sites (the one in Deer Trail in particular) are not sealed any longer. Rats can live almost anywhere, in some of the nastiest filth know to man. But if they can't live in these abandoned bases, there's got to be something really foul down there.
But hey, look on the bright side. At least it's not an abandoned chemical/biological warfare agent factory like they have in Russia where there's bubonic plague and anthrax just lying around on the floor...at ground level...
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Oh, BTW, turns out I've got to work this weekend after all..... so yeah....

But hey, overtime helps pay for new tires.
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http://www.chromehooves.net/

very cool site with lots of info
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http://www.chromehooves.net/

very cool site with lots of info
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:38 PM
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This is just silliness but if you plan on trespassing on Federal land do you really think the details are best documented on a public forum?
You make a good point.
I did some research and it turns out that none of the Titan 1 Missile silos are on federal land any longer, at least in Colorado, according to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE). The sites either reverted back to the original land owners, or were sold at surplus auctions after the total shutdown of the Titan project in 1968-69.
They're privately owned, but the environmental impacts are still studied. These studies are undertaken by the Department of Defense (DOD) at their leisure.

Now, it should be said that this only goes for the old Titan 1 silos. There are a bunch of other abandoned missile silos all over the mid-west, left behind from other projects as our intercontinental ballistic missile programs progressed in sophistication over the years. It seams that instead of retrofitting old sites, they just left them behind and started over (with your tax money). The majority of these sites are either still owned by the DOD, or are up for sale with a price tag that has way too many zeros at the end of it. For instance, there is a data storage company that purchased a missile silo of some configuration from the DOD north of Denver, and has retrofitted it to hold hundreds of servers for digital data storage.

Now, the CDPHE says that while all of these Titan 1 silo sites are contaminated and have contaminated their immediate surroundings, the B2 site (in Deer Trail) is the lesser of all the evils.
This is from the CDPHE website: "Complex 2B (D045): Titan Complex 2B is located near Deer Trail, Colorado. The Site Inspection (SI) field work was completed in the Fall of 2009. Based on the characterization data developed during the site inspection, only polychlorinated biphenols (PCBs) in the lagoon wastes (soils) is an issue. A non-time critical removal of the impacted soils is planned by the U.S. Army Corp. of Engineers."

So, anyways, my point in all this was, that if the land owner is ok with an expedition into the silo for purely exploration and photographic reasons, then we should be fine....Apart from the toxic substances.

Here is the website: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite.../1251616142341
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I'd be more worried about all the Meth addicts in deer trail than the Feds catching you. Don't ask me how I know about the meth problem out there!
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Soooo, Sunday the 19th, my wife and a good friend want to go. We are well aware of the potrntial consequences. Is anyone else in. Again, ill bring a 4 Gas monitor. I'm not concerned about chemicals or asbestos. Chemical wast would have been cleaned up to appropriate regulatory standards prior to releasing property to any land owner and asbestos is harmless unless we start demoing the place. If anyone goes this weekend a PM would be awesome containing coordinates, conditions and any current special conditions.
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