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Old 06-14-2013, 11:14 AM
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Speaking of global vehicles, Mercedes continues to produce the G Wagen here in the US despite it's boxy looks, high center of gravity and relatively poor on-road manners.


Fully equipped with rigid front and rear axles, center, front and rear locking differentials, and a coil sprung suspension, it's really a great platform for off road travel. But at $113k, it's a bit out of reach for you and me until it has passed through several owners' hands. But Mercedes continues to produce these trucks and import them into the US market as a niche vehicle.

I like this lady's review. She is very cautious not to say anything too negative because it's a Mercedes, and after all most US elitists are enamored by the Mercedes brand. Similar reviews of the 200 series always get pointedly negative feedback about the "truck parts" of the vehicle.


Unfortunately the US market doesn't feel the same way about the Toyota brand like they do with Mercedes, so a $75000 70 series won't have the same appeal, especially without all the Mercedes finishing touches. Maybe Toyota should produce a Lexus version, improve some of the exterior styling, and sell a 70 series Lexus for $100k to compete with the G Wagen?
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Caribou Sandstorm View Post
Hopefully that will be around the time I am ready to get a new rig...
doubtful in 2mos...
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wesintl View Post
doubtful in 2mos...
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:20 PM
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Chevy Cruze Turbo Diesel. VW has proved a TDI sedan is popular, so not a huge surprise it's gonna come down to hybrid or diesel in the future. Hard to say in passenger cars whether hybrids or diesels (why not a diesel hybrid), but I can't see hybrids being useful in truck. So wonder if a diesel Colorado is far behind, now that would be interesting.

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Old 06-14-2013, 02:48 PM
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Interesting quote: "With a starting price at $25,695, including a $810 destination charge, Cruze Diesel comes with a six-speed automatic transmission, four-wheel antilock disc brakes, 3.20 final drive ratio, 140-amp alternator, 800 cold-cranking amps battery, 17-inch alloy wheels, ultra-low-rolling resistance all-season tires, rear spoiler, Aero Performance Package and leather-appointed seating."

Why diesel economy cars still come in an automatic is beyond me. Maybe that's a misprint, but if you can't work a clutch, at least offer a PDK type manual tranny that's far more efficient than the old autos. The other odd thing there, is the alternator. Damn, 140amps for a diesel? Good lord...what are they powering in that?
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacket View Post
G Wagen
Those things are rad. Tons of room inside and very capable. If you've got the cash for one, you might as well just go all the way and get the AMG version or this one...

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Old 06-14-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Caribou Sandstorm View Post
Check out what I found at Toyota of Gibraltar.... I think this is a new offering...

Yes, I believe the double cap pickup was new for the 2013 model year, even though the 70 series has been around since 1985 - a 28 year run! Now that its run has outlasted even the FJ40's long 22 year run (1962 to 1984), I wonder how much longer it's going to last before Toyota will have to make a model change? I wonder what number they're going to go with?


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