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Old 06-30-2013, 09:53 AM
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As far as what makes one better than the other, I'll kick in my thoughts. For me, a 2001 and newer was the first breakdown. 01' and newer has the LATCH system for car seats, and that was important to me. Then came the 5spd over the 4spd, so that took me into the 03'-07' range. Then, price, mileage and anything that wasn't white.

If I could have found one without NAV, I probably would have went that route, but they're hard to find. The NAV MFD is also connected to the HVAC controls and if it ever takes a dump, it's an expensive fix. In due time, someone will come up with a retrofit kit (there are a few working on it). However, I wouldn't let that deter me from an 03'-07' because of the other things I wanted.

Originally, I bought this to camp with the kids and go fishing. My mod list was pretty small. Now, I'm so far down the wormhole that it's almost not even like driving a 100 anymore. It's not the smooth 15mpg cushy wagon that it used to be.

I have no issues going up and down I-70 with the 5spd trans, even on 35's. If I was towing something heavy, then maybe I'd regear. I notice the shift points are slightly off, but it's not stopping me from keeping up. My fuel mileage is in the 11-13 range. If I travel 2 or 3 days all offroad, I get 6-9mpgs.

ATRAC has taken me everywhere I wanted to go. I've followed fully locked 100's with no issues. Surely there is going to be something that I can't get over that someone in a locked 100 can. But, I'm pretty happy with where I've taken it so far.

You're more than welcome to take it up and down the road. It'd be even better if someone with a stock or semi-stock one would let you do the same. Good comparison.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:11 PM
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:24 PM
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100 or 80? That's not too far from asking 40 or FJ cruiser.
I had a sweet 80, and now I have a low mile 100. It's crazy how many more things the 100's have in stock form. Others have also mentioned, 80's are just getting old. Finding a really good one is becoming difficult and expensive.
Me, I like the 100 better, though I haven't modified yet, so I can't speak to the trail ability first hand just yet, only that others have followed my 40.

Here's a list of pro comparisons from my perspective:

100- (03 & up)
More legroom if you are 6' or taller.
Factory heated seats (hey, don't knock it!)
Power vent windows. Sounds crazy, but just plain convenient.
Ability to actually accelerate into traffic.
Climbs mtns with ease.
Tows trailers with "ease".
Rear a/c for passengers
More legroom for passengers
Headlights are better
All windows power up/down with one touch.
Better gas mileage
Smoother ride
Quiet
Way better brakes
Skid control
Side airbags
Child seat anchors
Rear power outlet
Multiple front power outlets
Heated mirrors
"Auto" start
Jump seats are a better design
Roof rack mounts don't rust out*
Keyless entry that works from more than 4' away
Engine runs cooler
I'm probably forgetting something.....

80 series ( 97 for me)
Factory diff locks (those were sweet)
Full floater (never heard of a 100 axle failing, but many would claim a FF is stronger)
No factory NAV to deal with
I think the seats were better fitting, though I had less leg room)
Solid front axle is serious beef
Easily lifted (mild lift)
Better air filter
Dual battery potential is easier
Slider windows offer a larger opening
Narrower for tighter trails

And that's pretty much where it ends. Honestly, there is some weight given to that front axle and diff locks, but that's about it. Everything else really is newer and better functioning. Normally, I would say time will tell, but there are now 100's with 400k miles, so they've proven themselves. You can add all or most of the standard features from the 100 to the 80, but you'll spend a fortune and an eternity doing it. So, outside of the width, and solid axle, of the three real 80 series strengths, the 100 is only a compromise on 2. All the other positives far outweigh those two unless you are truly going gonzo family wheeling rig.
That said, I miss my 80 series, but only because I'm a hoarder.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:18 AM
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Here's a couple more to add to the list above:

-No caster issues to address when lifting a 100. Just diff drop and done.
-Space for an easily added second factory battery tray on the 80.
-Putting dings, scrapes, and desert pin striping on an older vehicle (80) is easier on the brain.
-Rain gutters on the 80.
-Tires could be slightly more expensive on the 100 if you have the 18" rims.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:24 PM
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I got 13.9 MG fully loaded with family and 2 dogs towing our popup from eagle to the Ranch. 14 mpg is pretty decent for an awd suv towing. I never got anywhere close to that with the 80. There were times in wyoming with a head wind i got 6.

I also was able to stay above 60, mostly going 65 on both vail pass and the tunnel unless there was traffic. Can't do that in an 80.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:15 PM
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I also was able to stay above 60, mostly going 65 on both vail pass and the tunnel unless there was traffic. Can't do that in an 80.
Unless you add a supercharger.
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