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Old 07-25-2013, 03:08 PM
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I think it would be awesome to build one on a Tundra platform, but Tundra's are way too wide. Maybe cut one in half lengthwise, and then add extra width ? This thought process is what made me cut my 40 in half and do an extra cab 45. Was it a ton of work ? Yes. Was it worth it ? Yes. Do I miss it, or miss working on it ? NO. Crazy.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for chiming in Mike. You sold your rig? Bummer, it was one of my favorites.

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Old 07-26-2013, 11:00 AM
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A tundra is huge, and the leafs in back are not the way I would want to go. Personally, if I was going to build a stretch 40 with a modern drivetrain, I would be looking for a rolled GX470. You get a V8, coils, longer, but not too wide, ATRAC, etc. You can buy a custom stretch body from aqualu to fit the frame, and then try to swap the harness, booster, pedals, pretty much everything from the donor on over. If you are dead set on a solid axle, then it shouldn't be too bad at that point, but I think I would run IFS for a bit to try it out. I'm pretty sure an aluminum 40 with no top would be substantially lighter than the GX, which should make for a pretty stout drivetrain.

Some fun figures:
GX470 4,800lbs
LX470 5,590lbs
FJ cru 4,290lbs
FJ40 3,263lbs

Comparing the GX to the FJ, you can see that all that insulation, heavy seats, and gadgetry add a whooping 500lbs! I would guess and alu 40 might drop that curb weight somewhere around 3,800 lbs, which would make it a ROCKET.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:05 AM
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Oh, and if you are wanting a 4 door or 3 door, you should be looking for the rare bandierante that had that from the factory. They are getting into the years to be legal for import, they just are still expensive down there. I have found quite a few, so rare, but not impossible.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:19 PM
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A tundra is huge, and the leafs in back are not the way I would want to go. Personally, if I was going to build a stretch 40 with a modern drivetrain, I would be looking for a rolled GX470. You get a V8, coils, longer, but not too wide, ATRAC, etc. You can buy a custom stretch body from aqualu to fit the frame, and then try to swap the harness, booster, pedals, pretty much everything from the donor on over. If you are dead set on a solid axle, then it shouldn't be too bad at that point, but I think I would run IFS for a bit to try it out. I'm pretty sure an aluminum 40 with no top would be substantially lighter than the GX, which should make for a pretty stout drivetrain.

Some fun figures:
GX470 4,800lbs
LX470 5,590lbs
FJ cru 4,290lbs
FJ40 3,263lbs

Comparing the GX to the FJ, you can see that all that insulation, heavy seats, and gadgetry add a whooping 500lbs! I would guess and alu 40 might drop that curb weight somewhere around 3,800 lbs, which would make it a ROCKET.
This would be a very cool rig, but by the time you finish hemorrhaging cash you could buy almost any luxury SUV out there. But its all about the journey, right ?
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:38 PM
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Crashed GX can be had for somewhere between $3k to $10k depending on how bad it was smashed. For example: http://erepairables.com/salvage-cars...gx+470-4670255 (and boy is that one tempting...talk about cheap wheeler. Flares and steps are already removed for you!)
Body is somewhere near 10, then plan on spending another 10 on bumpers, headlights, sliders, and all that misc junk to make it complete. So, yeah, you could buy a Wrangler Unlimited Rubyourcon and spend the next two years driving instead of building.
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Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.
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Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.
Yeah, I'd be on a much tighter budget doing things that I could and making decisions based on budget. It would get close to what I'd want, I know the level you build to and it is second to none. Thanks for the real world advice. I am thinking of a bit of a shade tree project.

Thanks Gary. I was sad to see that your last project was totaled. Glad you are all safe!
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:11 PM
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Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.
It "should" be way more than that if you are basically doing a scratch build. I have a pretty extensive spread sheet detailing all the necessary components to do such a build. Not including labor, its darn expensive. The whole reason for starting with a GX or FJ would be the intention of repurposing nearly every part there to keep those costs down. The minute you start buying brake boosters and such, you are dropping $600 here and there on little stuff. Even then, there will be gobs of custom fab work to make a lot of those components fit the 40 style dash & firewall.
I just spent an entire day making an alternator bracket to be just right. Plan on that for every single custom bracket, so many, many man hours in a project like that.
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