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Old 09-18-2013, 03:43 PM
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Default Screwed for classic plate renewal

I have a '79 that was last registered as a collectors vehicle in 2008 and is now up for renewal. I thought I was grandfathered in since I was registered as a collectors prior to the last law that was passed in 2009 and would no longer need to worry about emissions testing.

Well, turns out I am wrong. That is no longer the case since passage of HB 13-1071.
http://tornado.state.co.us/gov_dir/l...13a/sl_370.htm

This is something to be aware of if you have a '76+ that is registered as a collectors, you are now required to pass emissions every 5 years in order to renew your registration.

This is a problem for me because:

1 - My cruiser is desmogged and only retains the evap control system
2 - My cruiser is apart right now and is not running

Does anyone know what I have to have installed in order to pass a visual inspection? I am assuming I will have to have the air pump in place and catalytic converter in addition to the evap system. I am hoping they wont dig as deep as the EGR because I no longer have the port to hook it up (header). Any insight is appreciated.

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Old 09-18-2013, 04:29 PM
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Default Classic vs. Collector?

OK...you got my attention. I have a 77 with collector plates. Can I assume Classic designation is different than collector? (please say yes). I'm desmogged, etc, too.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:34 PM
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I "just" had my tags renewed in 2010 without needing to pass emissions or anything.

Who told you you can't update the registration?

EDIT: Oh dang I read it in more detail. Looks like in 2015 I will have to get an emissions test...

"To register or reregister a collector's item that is model year 1976 or later, the owner must have a certificate of emission control issued under part 3 of article 4 of this title."

"Except as provided in section 42-4-309, the executive director shall establish a biennial inspection schedule for 1982 and newer model vehicles, and an annual inspection schedule for 1981 and older model vehicles, and a five-year inspection schedule for a 1976 or newer motor vehicle registered as a collector's item."

"To be sold or transferred or to renew the registration, 1976 and newer model motor vehicles registered as a collector's item under article 12 of this title must be inspected and have a certification of emissions control. The certification of emissions control is valid for sixty months."
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:04 PM
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I just registered my FJ62 at the DMV today and the nice lady (who owned an FJ60) printed a copy of the 'Collectors Item Affidavit' which was last amended 8/6/13. It's a single sheet of gobbledegook, which tells you little, but sends you to Section 42-4-304.

It also says that 'Pursuant to 42-12-404(3), to register or re-register a collector's item that is model year 1976 or later, the owner must have a certificate of emission control.'

Also, max miles per year allowed is 4500.

We need to stop electing politicians who monkey with these laws under the cover of darkness, such that it's a surprise for anyone with collector plates. Was ANYONE in Rising Sun aware of these changes, just enacted?
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Good to see that our state legislature tackled the really important issues this past legislative session.

I think my approach in the next election will be to vote against all the incumbents.
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I just registered my FJ62 at the DMV today and the nice lady (who owned an FJ60) printed a copy of the 'Collectors Item Affidavit' which was last amended 8/6/13. It's a single sheet of gobbledegook, which tells you little, but sends you to Section 42-4-304.

It also says that 'Pursuant to 42-12-404(3), to register or re-register a collector's item that is model year 1976 or later, the owner must have a certificate of emission control.'

Also, max miles per year allowed is 4500.

We need to stop electing politicians who monkey with these laws under the cover of darkness, such that it's a surprise for anyone with collector plates. Was ANYONE in Rising Sun aware of these changes, just enacted?
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Was ANYONE in Rising Sun aware of these changes, just enacted?
There was discussion of something similar before. Not sure what changed this session to be honest.

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=10860
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There was discussion of something similar before. Not sure what changed this session to be honest.

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=10860
That is the assumption I was operating under, I was grandfathered in to the previous law. No longer the case per the friendly people I talked to at the DMV.

I would have never desmogged if I knew this was the case. Luckily I still have the parts stashed away.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:10 PM
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So what are the odds that I can pass the non-enhanced test without the egr or air pump installed assuming I can pass the sniffer?
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:08 PM
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EGR (IMO) is not a big deal, but an air pump would help. I would put a significant amount of E-85 fuel in your truck, to boost the oxygen level. Clean oil and a clean air filter can help, along with all the usual smog-pass tricks.
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