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Old 10-26-2013, 09:27 AM
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:42 AM
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I think it's important to point out that "throwing" it in reverse and just mashing the gas is not what is being discussed here. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea from the thread title. I learned to drive on the ice filled mountain roads of the Catskill Mountains. Even our driveway was long, steep, rutted and gravel.

Keeping the rear of the truck behind the front of the truck was my sole purpose during the SNR. Only once did I get slightly sideways and was able to come to a stop. On some of the other steep downhill sections getting sideways would have most likely ended in a rollover. I used reverse, brake, gas, e-brake and "Jebus take the wheel" to get down. The one thing we had going for us was the trail is dug out a lot and shaped like a luge hill, as long as you just banged the sides and didn't go out of the "bowl", you could essentially just careen off the sides until you regained control.

Being last in the line of 12 meant there was no more fresh snow to "grab" traction on. It had already been spun/slid on and turned to ice. Here is a bad picture from earlier this summer where I was climbing the area that we descended that night. I would consider this a wide spot in the trail.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:15 PM
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AH, I think I remember hitting that large rock on the way down, Stan.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:17 PM
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sorry to burst your bubble
No, it's all good.
It was a long shot, but I thought I'd go for it.
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I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea from the thread title...
but a compelling headline makes for a much more entertaining discussion!
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Haven't read the whole thread yet, but gotta stop the "shot shell" thing now. Sorry,but this has been done for decades. Anyone who actually learned to drive in the Midwest learned this trick. I learned it when I was 16. I also learned how to e brake a turn in both rear and front wheel drive cars. I learned to shift the case n ice and gear through corners. There's not really any new driving techniques out there
You are right Ige, been doing it since '79 in a ford station wagon from there a very build Firebird and many other rigs. The thing I hated the most was the placement of the E brakes on the Toyota, next to the steering column. You could Steer the rear by just using the e brake only.

As for doing this down slippery hills, it takes practice and a soft touch. Practice in a parking lot when it is snow-covered and you can slowly master this "old" technique
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AH, I think I remember hitting that large rock on the way down, Stan.
Yep, that rock stopped me for sure also, I like that rock. I distinctly remember seeing it and putting the driver front right into it for a quick pause, deep breath, and back to the action move.
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I missed this thread somehow, but great read.
It was my diff that blew that night using the reverse technique.
Driving in snow/ice does take a little finesse, but as you gain speed and no traction, finesse is out the window, I just wanted to slow and stay on the trail. As Stan said I was using brake, e-brake and used the reverse a few times with light skinny pedal. This worked well until I was gaining too much speed on a downhill section and I think if I hadn't used reverse I would have ended up off the trail into a tree/rock with my wife and another passenger. Possibly rolling. I took the chance and "blew" it. Ha.
Good times though and again, thanks to all that helped get me rolling at the trail head.
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