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Old 01-09-2014, 06:41 AM
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I met some of you at the Wednesday evening meeting, it was very interesting to see how another club handles a meeting, I'm a 14 year member of the Trail Ridge Runners in Longmont and missed around 12 meeting in 14 years.

1. I like that the meeting stayed on schedule and on time. Topics where kept to a minimal.
2. I liked that there was a 3 minute time to meet the new people, I was glad I was one of about 6, it would be uncomfortable if I was the only guy.
3. I liked the idea that to become a member you need to go to one meeting and go on one club event.
4. The raffle at the end of the meeting was nice, a lot of work for the person who is in charge of this every month to find prizes, not an easy job.
5. I think I heard something about yearly dues and cost, I think $50.00 ( $25.00 to the club and $25.00 to other organizations ) is a great price, might be the cheapest 4x4 membership in Colorado ?
6. Club buying lunch after a run ??? seems odd, not used to this. The members should feel lucky, not sure how many other clubs can afford this ? I'm sure this does not happen after every run.
7. The Trail Ridge Runners has so many women involved at meetings, runs and events it was odd to so only IGY ( spelling ) at the meeting...why no women ? are your wives afraid to show up since no other women do ?..sorry guys..I feel something is wrong here, but it's what your used to. If anything keeps me from joining it's that, my wife will not come or go on runs if there are no women (most of the time ) I'm sure some do go on runs or events.
8. Meeting place is great, Stevenson Toyota has a great meeting room. Having to get out the door at 9:00pm was tough, but helps keep the meeting on schedule.

Sorry for the long write up, just what I seen from being a guest. I WAS going on the snow run..until the state meeting was moved to the 25th, I'm the Delegate for the T.R.R. club for 2014.

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:10 AM
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Thanks for the post. I didnt make the meeting becaus eof work.

Both my daughters or members with their own trucks. There are a couple of other ladies in the club. Most don't make a meeting. Your point is well taken though. Do you have a suggestion on how to work that?
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:37 AM
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How about planning a couples or ladies meeting night. Everyone bring a side dish to share. Have the women plan a Ladies run, the guys pack the lunch, the women drive. Let the women pick the meeting place and trail. Give them 100 % full control of the event
We ( T.R.R. ) do a Ladies run every year. Not all women will drive, but they at least know there will be women on the trip that day.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:49 AM
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There are a couple of other ladies in the club. Most don't make a meeting. Your point is well taken though. Do you have a suggestion on how to work that?
There is a vibe that's hard to explain, the club ebbs and flows. For a while when there are bunch of new members and families with stock-ish trucks, the runs are fun and about exploring but over time the trucks get bigger, the runs get harder and things get hard core. It's always seemed to me that there's this underlying attitude that being a Toyota-only club we've got something to prove and the trucks always have to get built to beat trails into submission and we forget why we started in the first place.
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Can't speak for anyone else, but my wife never goes to meetings or events or runs. She doesn't like wheeling nor talking about trucks, and really doesn't like trucks in general, so its just me when I can make anything. Work has been crazy for the last few years so I haven't done much.

Didn't quite understand the issue with the lunch? Are you saying its a bad plan? I always liked that, and no, its not an every run thing. Its an annual thing for the Snow run in January, and occasionally has happened on other runs, but its not every run.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:52 AM
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There is a vibe that's hard to explain, the club ebbs and flows. For a while when there are bunch of new members and families with stock-ish trucks, the runs are fun and about exploring but over time the trucks get bigger, the runs get harder and things get hard core. It's always seemed to me that there's this underlying attitude that being a Toyota-only club we've got something to prove and the trucks always have to get built to beat trails into submission and we forget why we started in the first place.
Disagree there completely. There are very few hardcore trucks in the club Dave. And most club runs are on pretty mild to medium trails: Yankee Hill, Moab has lots of easier runs, Chinamans, Triple Bypass, 40's only run, etc... Holy Cross gets run, but again, that's once a year, and its not "hard core" just "difficult" and requiring lockers and slightly larger tires. I've only seen a few runs over my entire membership in the club posted up to Carnage, Penrose, or Montrose.

There are a ton of IFS 100's in the club now, as well as a ton of Taco's and 4runners. Very few are hardcore.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:20 AM
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Some know, most don't know. I just sold my Rock crawler of 15 years, the T.R.R. years ago did a lot of level 10 trails, over the years we have gone away from the level 10 and do more 7 and under and more easy site seeing trips, which I have come to love, my wife and I get to see more of the trail, in the past is was a short trail breaking down with the tool bag or welder out.
Reason I purchased the 09 Tacoma, it will still have a mild build to handle level 7 trails with no problem.

The club changed so I ( we ) had to make a rig change since
a " rock crawler " was no longer needed.

Plus to keep the wife wanting to go, and our trails were farther away our rig had to change for a better pavement drive. Like to Utah or Buena Vista
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:28 AM
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I haven't been involved lately, so my frame of reference is old. It became clear to me I was way beyond my means after the 2008 Rubithon run. Kirsten didn't have a good time at all, I spent a lot of money prepping the truck and spent more fixing it. Just not my cup of tea. I should also admit that my tolerance for 'hard' has been slipping. I just don't really much care to chase some never achievable goal, we've been having more fun poking around back roads in an almost completely back-to-stock truck just like we did 15 years ago when we first bought Imelda with her 225/75R15 Bridgestone Duelers and bench seat. This is I think the fundamental similarity, it's about seeing new places, spending time together and not tackling problems. The runs you list are fine but we've done them a dozen times. Ho-hum. And God forbid, we shut off the engine and hike and ride the bikes a whole lot more now.
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Re-reading that post, I guess it's just me who missed the obvious that I'm not into building up trucks and probably never really was. So it's not fair as criticism of the Rising Sun by any stretch.
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Hi Ray, glad to hear you were mostly impressed with our little club. We do our best

We try to have the club buy some food for our volunteers when we do cleanup runs, and we have a couple other specific runs each year where the club buys food, specifically the Snow and Pizza Run and the Blow Off Work and Go Wheeling Run.

We had a ladies-specific run a few years back, seemed like a moderate success but hasn't really been followed on in recent years:
http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/s...ghlight=ladies

My wife came on a couple runs with me a few years back but doesn't particularly like bouncing around in my FJ40 all day. But there are usually some women on every run, especially the lower-key runs.
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