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Old 03-26-2008, 11:21 AM
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Sometimes having no stretch is a good thing.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:39 AM
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Not often though. I carry no chains.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:53 AM
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i have always carried them but have never used them..

A few times with a hi lift I wanted no stretch, but I didn't have a winch either..

just curious...
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what's with the chains? I have a few already, but i really hate using them since they are so heavy... why are they part of almost every "recovery kit"
They came in handy on Porcupine Rim at CM07 last year when an engine mount on a 60 broke and we used them to hold the engine in place - Other than that, the only other time I used them was to clear trees from the road leading into hunt camp one year...
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You think p-cord would have worked for that?

Whatley used p-cord and a log to compensate for a broken spring pack one year on the Trek...
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They came in handy on Porcupine Rim at CM07 last year when an engine mount on a 60 broke and we used them to hold the engine in place - Other than that, the only other time I used them was to clear trees from the road leading into hunt camp one year...
Chains are very helpful IF needed! You can hold stuff together on the trail when major breakage happens. If you lift a long travel rig via highlift or other body mounted way you need to chain the axle to the frame so it can be lifted with minimal jack height, If you have to move boulders or secure a winch line on something that would rub or cut nylon there is no replacement for a chain. If you have to tow a vehicle for a long ways then a chain is better as it won't wear out by rubbing on the ground nearly as quick.
The justification of full length chain is nearly not as legit theses days as it once was but you should at least carry a short chain because if the need is there there is no substitute for steel!
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But then after reading Dave's article, now I'm having second thoughts.
Also keep in mind that this article was written some time ago (about 3 or 4 years ago now) and ARB has changed their straps I believe. Also we don't get all of those straps here in the USA, but I still think it's a good article to read. What I got out of it was that getting a brand name 20,000 lbs strap (I think they are usually 2"x30') is usually enough, most of them tested 15,000 lbs and higher. So if you derate all your recovery gear by 50%, that means the smallest straps are 10,000 lbs safely. I also carry a big momma 4"x20' that I think is rated for 40,000 lbs. I assume it would do OK at 20,000 lbs, so the Mighty Hilux can flex 'er muscles during recoveries if needed.

As far as chains, I carry two chains with me.

One is a 10' x 3/8" Grade 43 chain with slip hooks on each end. This is primarily part of my rigging to make my Hi-Lift into a come along. I went with 3/8" because the JackMate accepts that size, although I don't have a JackMate. This is rated for a working load of 5,400 lbs.

I also carry 30' of 5/16" Grade 30 galvanized chain with a slip hook on one end and a binding hook on the other. This is primarily a drag chain for dead fall and stuff. Working limit on this is 1,900 lbs.
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