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Old 03-27-2008, 08:33 AM
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Is a SAS truck going to be stronger, ride better, and out perform an IFS of similar build? Yes, every time.
In rocks, yup. But it's kinda nice not floating all over on washboards. There's a reason Baja trucks use IFS and WRC cars have fully indy suspension. At non-crawl speeds IFS does pretty good, even off pavement.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:47 AM
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I guess thats why we have so much apathy towards letter writing to keep trails open as web wheelers really only need a keyboard and an audience!
Very true. I'm sure Bill has seen this more than anyone. I'm grateful to have such a dedicated person as our Land Use Coordinator. I've written more letters as a member of this club than in all my years before, and I felt like I used to write a lot.

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Old 03-27-2008, 09:51 AM
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I've been told my truck wasn't up to fairly moderate trails like Kane Creek, despite the fact that it has 3/16" plate covering the front, the front diff, and 3/8" covering the belly. 2 lockers and 2 transfercases. Go figure right? I laugh it off, and nod. Most have to see it to believe. There is just so much internet garbage floating around, and people get caught up in it.
Please.... I made it through Kane Creek in my truck with relative ease, and I've seen your truck go several places where mine could not.

With open diffs, the gap between SAS and IFS is fairly large, but with one or two lockers it closes rapidly.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:54 AM
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IFS is perfectly capable of taking you to 90% of the expedition destinations you seek.

If you don't mind how it makes the front end feel!
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This is where we go for the Outlaws Run. Perry, I and others have explored this area a lot and Black Dragin Wash is definitely a great one. Hopefully this will whet the appetite of more club members to go this October.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:23 PM
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Thanks for the pics, I need to get back in the habit of trips like that.
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In rocks, yup. But it's kinda nice not floating all over on washboards. There's a reason Baja trucks use IFS and WRC cars have fully indy suspension. At non-crawl speeds IFS does pretty good, even off pavement.

It's your thread, we should apologize to you!

I'm hard to believe this, as seeing what a well sprung axled front 80 can do over a long dirt road, Hint: Utah Cruiser Expedition. Like anything, a well equiped rig will do well. It all comes down to personal pref, and as Dave has stated, what you enjoy doing.

As for the pics, thanks for sharing. Looks like you guys went directly south from Black Dragon? We just traveld that road end of Feb, all the way to Goblin. Good fun road. Did you stop at the Three Fingers Pictograph panel? Very remot back in there.

And theres nothing like an open dirt road to quinch your taste buds. SAS or not
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:07 PM
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well sprung
...and damped

Those are always the key. Well, wheelbase, suspension travel and weight don't hurt either. Same reason that a 1969 Cadillac rides way smoother than a 1972 Pinto, despite both being solid rear/IFS.

OK, now I'm done, what a long day. Where's that beer?
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My dad's 1969 Caddy rode smoother than anything by the time he used it to haul hay out to the fields. And I can assure you it had no remaining damping whatsoever. None.

Very entertaining ride.
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Very entertaining ride.
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