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Old 08-11-2008, 12:31 PM
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Yea, I know. Been pretty busy lately so haven't had the energy to coordinate getting a poster together etc., but I'd like to do this this week.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:40 PM
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We need to electrify that sign!

Of course a little "Smile, you're on camera" would probably deter some folks as well
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We need to electrify that sign!

Of course a little "Smile, you're on camera" would probably deter some folks as well
That's a good idea Jeff. Maybe just writing that on the on the board would deter the vandels.
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:02 AM
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OK, I created a new version of the 11 x 17 sign. Let me know what you think!
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I like it (well ...OK ...the heep is a little but I agree it is the right thing to use )

So I realize WE are 4-wheelers but how about something a little more "universal" in the language. Don't ignore other users (hikers, mountain bikers, even ATVs() ) just makes us seem too ... elitist and we are all in it together.


Is sign wording even up to us? You know what happened when John "improved" the Jenny Creek kiosk ... not standard GI
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Use a cruiser in the pic. Otherwise, I think it's great.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:52 AM
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So I realize WE are 4-wheelers but how about something a little more "universal" in the language. Don't ignore other users (hikers, mountain bikers, even ATVs() ) just makes us seem too ... elitist and we are all in it together.


Is sign wording even up to us? You know what happened when John "improved" the Jenny Creek kiosk ... not standard GI
+1,000. Include all OHVs, a representative sample at least, or expect blow-back. Especially from motorcyclists, and justifiably so.

BTW, you need to reword it to not use 'trail'. Brant will explain till it's crystal that only ROAD travel is allowed in the area. I know, but it is important to him to keep 'trails' very distinct from 'roads'.

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Old 08-12-2008, 10:06 AM
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how about something a little more "universal" in the language. Don't ignore other users (hikers, mountain bikers, even ATVs)
That's going to make for a pretty cluttered poster. In many ways, I think the image should be an ATV, since they seem to be the biggest problem users.

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Is sign wording even up to us? You know what happened when John "improved" the Jenny Creek kiosk ... not standard GI
I don't know. I assumed that whatever I created would get shown by Subzali to his contact at the Forest Service. They actually asked for a different poster, so I just got started. This is just a starting point. It's usually easier to edit than it is to create from scratch, so hopefully this will help the FS figure out what they think it appropriate.

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Use a cruiser in the pic. Otherwise, I think it's great.
I used a silhouette of a Jeep on purpose, since it is a more universal representation of 4WD vehicles.

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+1,000. Include all OHVs, a representative sample at least, or expect blow-back. Especially from motorcyclists, and justifiably so.
If we had a silhouette of a Jeep, motorcycle and ATV, would that cover most of our motorized users?

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BTW, you need to reword it to not use 'trail'. Brant will explain till it's crystal that only ROAD travel is allowed in the area. I know, but it is important to him to keep 'trails' very distinct from 'roads'.
Um, dude, the other sign says "Stay (On) The Trail." That's a whole initiative from COHVCO.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:22 AM
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Thank you Matt! Yes, it's easier for us to show the CCRD something and have them tell us they don't like it then have them try to explain what they want without anything to look at! This is a great starting point, I forwarded it to Brant for his comments, and I think we are getting some good input here as well! Before this goes out in the field we WILL have their full blessing on it, and that's the beauty of computer generated graphics, it's all picture drawing until we can come up with what they want! Great work Matt and let's keep it up!
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That's going to make for a pretty cluttered poster. In many ways, I think the image should be an ATV, since they seem to be the biggest problem users.
I was thinking more about the verbage, the use of "motorized" and "open to vehicles".
I see what you were saying and I like the "no BS" down to earth language but I'm afraid it widens the gap between users (i.e. 4 wheeling and hiking/mtn biking) even further. No need to cause resentment by sounding as though we are all that matter.
I guess I'm saying that the message can be just as strong without specifically focusing on motorized users.
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