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Old 08-24-2008, 06:27 PM
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My pinion angle is 4 degrees after caster correction. I am concerned that the DC drive shaft I am having built by Front Range will not be vibe free.

Does the pinion angle absolutely have to be an ideal zero for a DC shaft to work, even with the high-pinion diff?
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4 degrees might be pushing it, I assume you have full time 4x4? Check the angle of your front companion flange, you might actually be better off without a double cardan. Usually though that angle is way off, which is why the factory uses the DC/CV at least on minis.
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4 degrees will be too much, but you don't have to be a perfect match. you should be within a degree or so...i think the most i've gone was just under 2 degrees.
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Well I measured wrong. What a learning experience. At the pinion, the u joint is operating at 8 degrees and at the tcase it is 16 degrees (the driveshaft angle is 12 degrees). To make things worse, the DC taco drive shaft I got from the junkyard is bad. So needless to say, front Range is making me a whole new shaft with a DC that will operate all day at 22 degrees if necessary. I hope this works. I knew going into more lift, these things can happen.
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You still have that front pinion angle to worry about.
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how much is that shaft setting you back?
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4 bills. There goes my Bilstein money.
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To make things worse, the DC taco drive shaft I got from the junkyard is bad.
What was bad about it? U-joints (rare)? Or the cardan joint itself?
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The center pivot within the cardan joint has come apart and is binding.

I will remove the caster bushings and go back to stock if necessary to get a little more pinion angle if I get vibes with the new shaft. I really need to get a caster measurement done.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:33 AM
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Looks like the old cut&rotate is the best solution. I know you didn't want to hear that... but there is a local guy who will do it affordably and well if you gut the housing and pull it (no mean feat on an 80), and tell him EXACTLY what your angles are and what you want them to be. If removing the caster bushings works great (but doesn't steer great) I bet you could just take your measured caster vs. factory spec and he could make it happen.
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