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Old 08-25-2014, 05:07 PM
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I hope the Japanese by the **** out of them so they reconsider other markets.

It's very interesting though because it appears to be consumer driven demand and Toyota knows no one in japan truly needs a 70 series to get from A to B. It's a Toy not a tool. That opens the door to other markets where people want toys as well. The largest consumer market of toys... the US

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Old 08-25-2014, 05:28 PM
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Remind me again why these aren't available here?
Because without 15 air bags, rearview cameras and ABS we'll all die in horrible, fiery crashes while simultaneously choking the very air from the lungs of baby seals.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/
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They all have front airbags now, but I don't believe they have the curtains. I "think" it would be easy enough to add seats that have side air bags, but I doubt they would ever modify the pillars to contain the drop downs like the 100's and 200's.

Even if they got them airbag complaint for current standards, its the EPA that kills them. IIRC, the diesel standards in the US keep moving and are set to again soon. As long as that continues, why would a manufacturer spend the cash to develop an engine system that will be out of compliance in a year? California isn't helping things here either. http://forcechange.com/1141/californ...andards-in-us/
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:40 AM
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In this case it sounds like the 70's will be equipped with the 1GR-FE, which is already alive and well as a power plant in the US.

Are side-curtain air bags now required in all new vehicles? I haven't really kept up with the safety stuff.
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why would a manufacturer spend the cash to develop an engine system that will be out of compliance in a year?
VW, mercedes, audi, bmw, and the big 3 don't seem to have an issue with it
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Toyota would have to put that motor in Tacoma, Tundra, 4 runner, FJC, etc. before they got enough volume potential to pull it off. If they just put it in the 70, it would be a losing deal. Should they? I think so, but a 1HZ isn't going to fly with a Tundra buyer and I don't know if it would fit in a Tacoma/FJC. The engine that makes sense is the D4D like what's in Costa Rica trucks. That also won't fly in the Tundra, but I would take one in a 70 in a heartbeat.
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They would probably have to do the D-4D (Tacoma etc.) and the 1VD-FTV (70 series/Tundra) to get a broad enough taste of Toyota diesels in the market for people to bite. But that's double the work. And even then I'm not sure how the 1VD-FTV compares to American diesels in terms of power. It might be like comparing the 2UZ to the 5.3/5.7 and 6.0 V8s in American vehicles. Always "undersized," always "underpowered."
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VW, mercedes, audi, bmw, and the big 3 don't seem to have an issue with it
European diesels do well, the the VW TDI and the Mercedes Bluetec have no trouble working here. Same could be said of Ford, Toyota, Nissan. The cars they sell in Europe wouldn't take much effort to work in the U.S. I don't know why manufacturers don't think diesel would do well here, VW can't keep TDIs in stock. It's like stick shift Tacomas, rare used and even almost impossible to test drive since the dealers don't get many and they sell quickly. But double cab automatics are all over. I'm waiting for VW to sell a diesel hybrid and embarrass everyone with 60 MPG in a Jetta.
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CAFE as well as other government regs will continue to make a 70 series a pipe dream for us. Too much BS to comply with to really get what we want. A gaser V6 is probably the only thing we could ever hope for but even that is a stretch.

Have to buy one piece by piece and reassemble as a home build. But the price of that makes it out of reach for the majority who would want such a truck.
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Because without 15 air bags, rearview cameras and ABS we'll all die in horrible, fiery crashes while simultaneously choking the very air from the lungs of baby seals.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/
I know right? I almost died about 20 times yesterday driving my '65 Binder. I was terrified the whole time.

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