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Old 11-17-2015, 01:05 PM
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I wonder... if you bought a tub from Aqualu, could you build yourself a cruiser/buggy/whatever and then title and plate it using CO's self built car provisions?

for example, i know this is commonly done with say Factory Five cobra kit cars, there are actually a bunch of these in the Denver area. Since we have kit car laws, you can basically build one of these and as long as it passes a safety inspection you can get a title and plates for it. these are emissions exempt, as i'm sure you could imagine, most of the engines installed in these wouldn't have a hope of passing any emissions testing.

http://www.aqualu.com/land-cruiser.html

imo... that would be pretty rad. a standard FJ40 body is under $4,000 and you could then power it however you wish without being subjected to the evils of the air care program.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:11 PM
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More or less what slee did with his pickup. It's not a 70, not an 80, and not a 100, but I "think" he said the emissions were required and applied to year of engine. Don't quote me on that though.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:27 PM
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I believe the rebuilder (usually from salvage I think) provision still requires a valid VIN to start. You'll have to ask Christo, but my assumption is it started as something that was once a legal vehicle and the VIN (or MSO, manufacturer statement of origin) and title got reassigned to his custom car. It would be subject to whatever safety and emissions applied originally.

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/dmv/rebuilders-title

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...les/DR2186.pdf

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...les/DR2408.pdf
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:39 PM
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I found this additional information:

http://www.milehicobraclub.com/askdr...php#question_1

it says that the car is "emissions exempt" but also that you may need to go to air care. so its kind of ambiguous.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:44 PM
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I think the differences depend on the source for the replication. It's either starting as something else, a custom frame from an established manufacturer or a fully custom frame that you built.

While it might be tempting to do the DIY, the State Patrol will require engineering documents as to structural integrity. You'll probably need a mechanical P.E. willing to stamp a report document stating this with some analysis and drawing. Starting with a chassis or buying a pre-made frame comes with the legal documentation already.

Pure speculation, I'd guess that if you start with a new chassis (regardless if it's DIY or something you buy) that it becomes in effect a new car maybe subject to current emissions and safety. At least to some extent. If you start with an old rolling chassis it will get whatever was in effect at the time of it's original manufacture.
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interesting stuff. I found this thread as well. apparently a guy here in Boulder built a Lotus-ish vehicle, 100% homemade and managed to get it titled and plated with some hassle, but no emissions or other crazy stuff. fwiw, i could get stuff stamped pretty easy.

http://www.locostusa.com/forums/view...php?f=1&t=6527
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:52 AM
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there's a homemade car running around Broomfield. Looks kinda VW Thingish, but shorter. obviously fabricated in a garage or something.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:10 AM
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As long as we are speculating on building whats the build list? How about total parts cost no greater than $25k. Labor not included.

Donor Frame or rolling chassis?
Engine?
Transmission?
Axles?
Tires? Wait save that for another thread....
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I think this a great idea. I've wondered the same thing; could you get a 40 body to fit on another frame? Like an fj cruiser or Tacoma. Updated handling and feel would be great.

How is this much different than the fj ute out of redline? Seems like a similar idea. Most likely titled as an 80.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:50 AM
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Redline does this all the time. I think they take either an 80 or 100 chassis and install an FJ40 body on to it. They then modify it to become essentially a crew cab FJ40, not sure if it becomes a 4 door or not in the process, Iggy would probably know.
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