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Old 10-26-2009, 01:29 PM
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I wish I had brought the Prius Nak said could make it because it only got worse from here. When your spotter says to stop posing and drive out out it....then comes running down the hill to grab the bumper.... that's funny
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:48 PM
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I wish I had brought the Prius Nak said could make it because it only got worse from here. When your spotter says to stop posing and drive out out it....then comes running down the hill to grab the bumper.... that's funny
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:26 PM
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i was wondering if i needed to switch also... do you think Fritz could reach the pedals?
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Nice IFS flex!
Oh, THAT'S the 'wheel stand spot' they were talking about coming down. I came up the hill late, just before you came up Kevin, and I don't remember doing anything like that. Maybe I took a different line being that it was dark. Or it's possible that IFS without sway bars flexes some place between a solid axle with and without. Shrug.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:06 PM
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you took a different line Dave, you went up the right side and most everybody else went up this (left) side (you weren't avoiding the left side as far as I could tell, it mostly had to do with the fact that you were shedding/reorganizing passengers with another truck that was sitting on the right hand side).
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:16 PM
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What made this such a PITA was gravity! Having the truck at such a steep angle and having a spring over setup with the pinion rotated up made putting it back together tough as nothing would stay in place so the caps could get put back in. I made a bad call by saying "Lets fix it right here." Just too many negative factors to deal with made it time consuming trail fix ending in lousy repair. Hey, I'm still learning!
Just as a FYI to those not at the repair, the 40 ended up in a stable enough spot that happened to be about, what, 15% grade pointed up hill, would you say UB? So the decision was that it seemed safe enough even if not ideal. There was a flat spot that we'd scoped out that people were using to turn around and would have been a better spot to wrench. But that would have meant fighting the ice down another 500 feet downhill and we'd already seen the 40 slide uncontrolled once about 50 feet into another tree. So while hindsight is on UB's side right now, dealing with a pinion that wanted to jam the diff, the ice and winching him down made the decision a lot less obvious at the time. I think a lot of us learned a lot, like for me what to do if you break a pinion gear. Never been at the scene during a pinion fix, just seen the tail end of one being fixed. I would say this is one place where a mini axle has an advantage over the rear axle of a Cruiser. You are not tempted to short cut and work through the inspection cover, there is no question that you pull the diff... :-)
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:36 PM
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Just as a FYI to those not at the repair, the 40 ended up in a stable enough spot that happened to be about, what, 15% grade pointed up hill, would you say UB? So the decision was that it seemed safe enough even if not ideal. There was a flat spot that we'd scoped out that people were using to turn around and would have been a better spot to wrench. But that would have meant fighting the ice down another 500 feet downhill and we'd already seen the 40 slide uncontrolled once about 50 feet into another tree. So while hindsight is on UB's side right now, dealing with a pinion that wanted to jam the diff, the ice and winching him down made the decision a lot less obvious at the time. I think a lot of us learned a lot, like for me what to do if you break a pinion gear. Never been at the scene during a pinion fix, just seen the tail end of one being fixed. I would say this is one place where a mini axle has an advantage over the rear axle of a Cruiser. You are not tempted to short cut and work through the inspection cover, there is no question that you pull the diff... :-)

The 8" mini diff also does not have c-clips so that also speeds things up a bit. The rear cover, pin and block still would have had to come out before the drop out would drop out so in theory 4 bolts on the carrier bearing caps vrs 12 holding the drop out should have been a lot faster especially since we would still have had to pull the carrier after it was out to get the broken stub out.
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I would say this is one place where a mini axle has an advantage over the rear axle of a Cruiser. You are not tempted to short cut and work through the inspection cover, there is no question that you pull the diff... :-)
don't see how you had so much trouble going that way. that's how i did kevin's rig in moab and, having pulled numerous diffs, i'd do it that way over pulling the diff in a heartbeat. but, i wasn't there either.
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don't see how you had so much trouble going that way. that's how i did kevin's rig in moab and, having pulled numerous diffs, i'd do it that way over pulling the diff in a heartbeat. but, i wasn't there either.
It was just the cold conditions and the downward angle of the opening that made it a PITA. Job itself would have been super quick especially on nice warm slickrock or sand! Like hanging a diff from the ceiling and putting the caps on when your fingers need to hold everything in place......in a freezer....
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Oh, THAT'S the 'wheel stand spot' they were talking about coming down. I came up the hill late, just before you came up Kevin, and I don't remember doing anything like that. Maybe I took a different line being that it was dark. Or it's possible that IFS without sway bars flexes some place between a solid axle with and without. Shrug.
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