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Old 02-17-2010, 08:48 PM
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Default !!Important meeting to discuss reopening Rollins Pass!!

So another dual sport motorcyclist on Adventure Rider has been pushing the status quo, and working to get Udall's office to sit down and discuss the reopening of Rollins Pass and/or Boulder Wagon Road reopened.

Cross posted from ADV:

As many of you know there has been a movement to reopen Rollins Pass for many years. There has also been similar feelings about the Boulder Wagon Road (which parallels Rollins Pass) ever since the USFS gated it two summers ago.

It looks like our persistence may result in a meeting.
Below in yellow is an email I recieved on 2-10-10 from Mark Udall's staff member / aide Doug Young. It was also sent to the staffs of the USFS, Gilpin, Grand and Boulder counties.

Hello County Commissioners et al:

I would like to suggest that we all get together to discuss the situation with the Rollins Pass road. As you all will recall, then-Congressman Udall included a provision in the James Peak Wilderness and Protection Area Act to explore the reopening of this road to 2-wheel drive traffic (that language is posted below for reference). I know that since this provision was enacted in 2002 there have been periodic discussion regarding this provision.

I would like to get together with you (or your designee) in the near future to discuss this issue and get a status report on where things stand.

Since there are a number of people on this email (including County Commissioners), I would like to hear back from folks about this suggestion and when such a meeting might work.

Also, if there are folks whom you know would be interested in this but I inadvertently failed to include on this email, feel free to share this with them.

Thanks,

Doug Young
Senator Mark Udall’s Office
(303) 293-0960

(excerpt from James Peak Wilderness Bill)

SEC. 7. OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS.
(b) ROLLINS PASS ROAD.—If requested by one or more of the
Colorado Counties of Grand, Gilpin, and Boulder, the Secretary
shall provide technical assistance and otherwise cooperate with
respect to repairing the Rollins Pass road in those counties
sufficiently to allow two-wheel-drive vehicles to travel between Colorado
State Highway 119 and U.S. Highway 40. If this road is repaired
to such extent, the Secretary shall close the motorized roads and trails
on Forest Service land indicated on the map entitled ‘‘Rollins Pass Road
Reopening: Attendant Road and Trail Closures’’, dated September 2001.


I am hoping to get some good input and support to take to this meeting.
Lets put our heads together to come up with the best points to present at this potential meeting. Thank, Steve
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:32 PM
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when's the meeting? if it's not during work, i'll go!!!
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:02 PM
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I don't care when it is, I will BE THERE!!!!! very cool
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:05 AM
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Thanks, Boz!! There is a lot of potential in working together with motorcyclists!!!
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This language doesn't sound positive:

"...If this road is repaired to such extent, the Secretary shall close the motorized roads and trails on Forest Service land indicated on the map..."

Do we have a copy of the map referred to?

Also, there is no support for a maintained two wheel drive road. BRD has a valid point that it would bring far too much traffic to an area that could not support it. Where would the $ come from to maintain it, patrol it, add improvements (like bathrooms) that would be required to handle the traffic?

The only way I see this working would be to open it as a 4 wheel drive route similar to Williams Pass.

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Old 02-18-2010, 10:37 AM
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This language doesn't sound positive:

"...If this road is repaired to such extent, the Secretary shall close the motorized roads and trails on Forest Service land indicated on the map..."

Do we have a copy of the map referred to?

Also, there is no support for a maintained two wheel drive road. BRD has a valid point that it would bring far too much traffic to an area that could not support it. Where would the $ come from to maintain it, patrol it, add improvements (like bathrooms) that would be required to handle the traffic?

The only way I see this working would be to open it as a 4 wheel drive route similar to Williams Pass.

Very valid points Martin! I totally see your view and I agree with you!
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:07 PM
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I'm in, if I'm in town. We should make an extra effort to appear in great numbers just to send a message. Even if we're unsuccessful here, if we continue to appear in numbers any time these issues are up for discussion, it makes a point that "we actually care" about keeping or re-opening this type of access.

Martin, I wouldn't get too concerned about the dollars, s..t, they seem to find money for everything else in the world that somebody wants. that's just an excuse they give to taxpayers. So why not a few $ for some hard working, hard playing folks that actually "pay" taxes getting a little benefit for a change.

We not only need to be a "squeaky" wheel....we need to become a "SCREACHING" wheel that won't stop.....in order to be heard!

Just my $.02
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I think what martin is refering to is the closure of other roads. It would be nice to know what these other roads are.
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I believe that is a reference to the Boulder Wagon Road - already closed.
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The meeting is no longer potential, it is actual!
Friday, March 12, at Clear Creek Ranger District

Christine from the BRD will be there, as well as Udall's representative.

Here is the email text. Martin, if you could be there, that would be wonderful.
SOMEONE FROM THE CLUB NEEDS TO BE THERE
to represent our interests. I will be in Moab... but I can cancel that in order to be at this meeting, I need to know ASAP!!
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Hello everyone.

I have now heard from most of you about having a meeting.

How about this date, time, and location:

Friday, March 12, 2010
9:00 am
Idaho Springs (location to be determined; perhaps the Forest Service’s Clear Creek Ranger District office, or Town Hall)

I'm suggesting Idaho Springs as it is convenient and centrally located for most Grand County folks and Front Range folks. Also, in the morning early to avoid any ski traffic.

Let me (and everyone on this email) know if this works. And if not, suggest a better date, time or place.

And Dan Lovato, could we use your offices, or, if not able to accommodate this group, any suggestions in Idaho Springs?

Thanks,

Doug
I will update this as I get more info.
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