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Old 03-15-2010, 11:31 AM
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imo, most analysts are wrong in this case and Hillis was simply a much better player than either his draft position, or his playing time last year, indicated.
lol.. hillis might be higher than a 7th today but maybe only a couple rnds. he's no first rounder. I think most analysts are not that far off with him.

I'm not saying he not good but the fans here seem to value him way higher than than anyone else.

I look at homegerns view differently. they wanted anderson and quinn gone, they would take almost anything for him to get rid of him and did. they didn't get anything for anderson which at one time went to the pro bowl, quinn didn't. doesn't seem all that smart to me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:38 AM
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I guess only time will tell.

Will quinn have greater relative success than hillis?

not 100% sure of the answer. only maybe like 90% sure of the answer.

of course people outside Denver don't know much or think very highly of Hillis, people outside of Denver didn't get to see him much and don't know what type of player he is, the assumption is is that he's a backup fullback that plays a little special teams.

my only point is I don't think that is a valid representation if Hillis' skill set.
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he never had over 350 yards in a season, college or 2008. he's a short yardage runner. now why we didn't use him a couple times to punch it in last year, I don't know but so far he's not a feature back.

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343 yards on 68 carries with 5 td's in 2008, the only year where he got a significant number of carries.

that's 5 yards per carry.

5 yards per carry is feature back average for sure.

He's a fast starter, he doesn't need 10 carries to get into a groove.

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a lot of that depends on the offensive line
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true in 2008 behind what was considered the best zone blocking scheme with good personnel,
hillis avg'd 5.1
in 2009 behind the 'modified' zone blocking scheme with some injuries on the line,
he averaged 4.1 with only 13 carries.


cantrun moreno didn't break 1000 yds with almost 250 carries, a tasty 3.8 yards per

so yea, a lot depends on 'the line'

its not apples to apples here, but NoVision Moreno liked to fumble and couldn't hit the holes, buckhalter imo was much better.

who cares, its all moot, we got cleveland's cast off for mcdaniels cast off.

quinn won't be here in 2 years. neither will mcdaniels
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hopefully it works out for both of them, obviously hillis was not getting playing time here nor quinn there. sometimes a change of scenery, team and someone else believing in your abilities is all they need.
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I liked Hillis for his "can do" attitude...He reminded me of Eddie Mac...A player that was often overlooked but stepped up and got it done when called on...These guys did more on sheer determination and love of the game than the superstars like Marshall etc. did with their skill.

I'd really like to hear an honest answer from McDaniels on why he didn't play Hillis more, especially in situations where you knew that Hillis was likely to come through for you...
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I see Chris Simms listed as a free agent pretty soon after camp starts.
Didn't take that long

Broncos just cut him today
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he never had over 350 yards in a season, college or 2008. he's a short yardage runner. now why we didn't use him a couple times to punch it in last year, I don't know but so far he's not a feature back.

we need a rising sun fantasy league this fall... who's up?
He played behind Darren McFadden and Felix Jones - both starters in the NFL now.

I'd play some fantasy against you - but only if there's cash stakes.
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