Rising Sun Member Forums  

Go Back   Rising Sun Member Forums > Toyota 4x4 > General Tech Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-25-2010, 07:50 PM
nattybumppo's Avatar
nattybumppo nattybumppo is offline
Rising Sun Secretary
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northwest Denver
Posts: 1,143
Question Headers for a 40

Who likes what? Do I have to spend 500 for the fancy Manafre ceramic ones or are the cheaper ones by them or maybe the JK outfitters $200 ones OK?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-25-2010, 10:53 PM
corsair23's Avatar
corsair23 corsair23 is offline
Rising Sun Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Littleton
Posts: 8,697
Default

How about the cheapers ones and then take them to someone local (like the place Red Chili used) and get them coated?
__________________
Jeff Z. (the "not quite as skinny" one)
TLCA #17037
'97 LX450 - aka "The Whale"
'97 FZJ80 Antique Sage AE #267, stock
12/74 FJ40, 2F, SM420, 4" Lift, ARBs, 33" MTRs

:

"...anything else i can do for you guys, how about i wash your car or mow your lawn while you figure out your firewall system? I am now boarderline insane/unibomber." Kipper

"That assumes I'm even capable of pulling and stabbing..." Jacket

"I really like having a detachable unit." Beater
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-26-2010, 06:57 AM
RicardoJM's Avatar
RicardoJM RicardoJM is offline
Rising Sun Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 2,295
Default

I have a header that I will be putting in my 40. I picked it up off CL and don't know it's pedigree or history. In my research, there is not a "must have" manufacturer of headers for the F/2F engines.

I am going to ceramic coat the header. The coating will be just under $200. The ceramic coating does two things; extends the life and keeps engine temps down. For me, it is worth the money - for others maybe not. I did this with headers that were installed on my Bronco a few years ago and have been very pleased with the results.

I am also planning on taking the intake manifold and header to a machine shop (don't know which one yet) to make sure they are flat and mate together well. This is extremely important to insure the installation is leak free.
__________________
Ricardo Maestas - Bio Page
KD0CAW
1999 LX 470, 1971 FJ-40
TLCA #18941
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-26-2010, 07:14 AM
frontrange frontrange is offline
Locked
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 291
Default

I have a brand new one in box I'd like to get rid of. It's uncoated, but I know of at least one local shop that does ceramic coatings on headers. PM me if interested.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-26-2010, 07:31 AM
Air Randy's Avatar
Air Randy Air Randy is offline
Cruise Moab Committee
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Franktown, CO
Posts: 2,804
Default

There is probably a small difference in performance between the MAF design units and the less expensive JTO units, but you are talking about a 2F after all. You'll never notice the difference between them.

I have the JTO headers and they work just fine, decent quality, etc. If you want to spend the coin on ceramic go for it but it probably won't make them last much longer. They don't usually rust out, they crack eventually from vibration and the motor torquing around.
__________________
Randy Rosetta KDKWX TLCA #19351 69 FJ40 "Meanie" & 1970 Boss 302 Mustang
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-30-2010, 12:11 PM
Dr. Schlegs's Avatar
Dr. Schlegs Dr. Schlegs is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Aurora, CO
Posts: 1,114
Default

You could rattle can them as well. I have done that with the exhaust on my 80. Hell of a lot cheaper. Stick them in your oven for 45 minutes at 400 degrees and your good to go. Don't forget to preheat the oven of course.
__________________
"Keep talking. I'll keep analyzing."
"Bad decisions make great stories."
"40's are only to be sold at estate sales." - Uncle Ben

'72 FJ-40 - 33's, F&R Disc Brake Conversation, rear ARB, sliders, Winch.

'96 FZJ-80 - Borla Exhaust, ARB w/ M8000, OME 3" lift, sliders, 305 BFG KM2, 4.88's and ARBs, and usually dog hair.

TLCA#5366
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-30-2010, 12:17 PM
MDH33's Avatar
MDH33 MDH33 is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Land of Corn
Posts: 5,771
Default

I have the cheap, older Man-a-fre headers on my 2F. They seem to work great and the 2F in my 40 which is desmogged and sporting the headers is much more lively than any other 2F I've owned. Although, when these headers finally crack, I'll probably be going back to the OEM setup so that I can fit my PTO driveline.
__________________
--Martin
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-30-2010, 12:23 PM
subzali's Avatar
subzali subzali is offline
Rising Sun member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 7,464
Default

And adding to that, Martin's 40 can outrun my 40. Mine is the stock setup on 31" Goodyear MT/Rs, he's on 34" Super Swampers. There are probably other factors, but this may be one of them. YMMV
__________________
Matt Miller
"Stay the Trail," "Tread Lightly," and "Leave No Trace" ethics
TLCA# 13684
Rising Sun Bio
1977 FJ40 2F "Brahma" + Lockright, tach, Warn 8274, FJ60 Power Steering, soon to lose the Sanden OBA to go back to factory emissions
1996 FZJ80 1FZ-FE factory lockers + Safari Turbo , CDL switch, cup holder, AATLAS1X leather, heated seats and JDM switches
2000 Tundra Limited TRD 2UZ-FE SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-30-2010, 09:55 PM
farnhamstj's Avatar
farnhamstj farnhamstj is offline
Hard Core 4+
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: vail co
Posts: 2,577
Default

I had a Downey 6-1 header. No coating. I think it was about $200. Great upgrade over stock. Never had overheating problems. Worked well with the saganaw steering. I believe Downey is no longer but perhaps someone knows where it came from. Having Mark rebuild and work some magic on my carb was another great improvement, better than the header. Also about $200
__________________
98 uzj100. Factory rear-ARB front locked 4.88's. ARB Bull, Warn 9000, Irbis rear bumper, Slee sliders and belly pan. OME t-bars w/863 rears, HID, XM
KD0GWO
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-30-2010, 11:25 PM
Hulk's Avatar
Hulk Hulk is offline
Cruise Moab Committee
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: South Side!
Posts: 11,380
Send a message via AIM to Hulk
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RicardoJM View Post
I am also planning on taking the intake manifold and header to a machine shop (don't know which one yet) to make sure they are flat and mate together well. This is extremely important to insure the installation is leak free.
My old buddy Steve Hansen from Windy City Land Cruisers always used 2 exhaust manifold gaskets, stacked, to seal up the leaks when installing headers. He swore this helped seal everything up.
__________________
Matt Farr, Centennial, Colorado | Webmaster: TLCA.org
1996 FZJ80 TLCA #4189 WRDY
www.rustybrain.com/cruisers my Rising Sun bio Facebook Twitter Need satellite Internet? Check out: Exede Internet

If you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.