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Old 06-14-2010, 11:21 AM
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Hi guys. I have an opportunity to purchase a low mileage '93 Forerunner for my daughter and was wondering if there is anything that I should be watching out for. Any information or suggestions of particular problems or quirks or great things about this particular year would be greatly appreciated
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:34 AM
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Loren the only thing that jumps out is the engine... 93 is 3.0 V6, right? many would argue that 3.0 V6 is the worst option available, and either the step back to the 4cyl. 22re or the step up to the 3.4L 5VZ-Fe is preferable. If there was a 96+ for about the same money it would get my nod over this one, just because of engine type...

it's all about maintenance though, if it's had regular coolant & oil changes it's less of a deal than if it hasn't. See if you can snif around enough to get a feel for how well maintained it is?
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Thanks for the heads up on the engine. I am not sure what engine is in it. The owner was the mom of a friend of mine. She passed away and they are trying to figure out what to do with the vehicle. It has about 18K miles on it and are asking $6K.
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18K miles in 18 years? wow.
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Loren the only thing that jumps out is the engine... 93 is 3.0 V6, right? many would argue that 3.0 V6 is the worst option available, and either the step back to the 4cyl. 22re or the step up to the 3.4L 5VZ-Fe is preferable. If there was a 96+ for about the same money it would get my nod over this one, just because of engine type...

it's all about maintenance though, if it's had regular coolant & oil changes it's less of a deal than if it hasn't. See if you can snif around enough to get a feel for how well maintained it is?
Tim, was the engine a problem due to its lack of power, it had mechanical problems, bad mileage or something else?

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The 3VZ-FE is not as bad as the Internet wisdom says. Think about it, Toyota only made like 100 billion of them and there's aren't 100 billion haters. Just that the people who do have problems or whatever bone to pick post on the web a lot. Well, I do agree that it's not as good as the 22R, but that because they /only/ last 150K or 200K but do make 25 HP more. :-P

The '90-'95 4Runners are solid values IMO. I've like to have the 1990-1991 version personally. Some day maybe.









Yeah, yeah, the 5VZ-FE is a better V6, though.
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Tim, was the engine a problem due to its lack of power, it had mechanical problems, bad mileage or something else?

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The 3VZ made about 150HP and generally with the auto it is a slug. A lot like a 22R-E with any tranny. With a stick the 3.0L does better. So from a operating standpoint they don't make a ton of power and the mileage is generally pretty low compared to a 22R-E. This is why from a user perspective they are not very popular. Either way, 22R or 3VZ, your truck is slow compared to more modern vehicles, but at least with a 22R you can be all smug that you're getting 20MPG and probably 250K miles.

They had two major problems, one is that during production Toyota changed something and they started developing headgasket issues. The 1993 would be pretty much in the middle of this. Toyota did though issue a recall of them (which is still active AFAIK) that gave an owner at least new HGs and often a reworking of the heads. This is not anything I would worry too much about, by now it's either been done or you might not have the problem. There is another problem, where the #6 cylinder seems to burn exhaust valves. This I think is due to the routing of the crossover pipe causing a hot spot on the head. I'm not sure if this is inclusive to the HG issue, but I don't think Toyota does anything for this. This is the 'only' lasting 150K thing I mentioned.
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Thanks Dave.
I will weigh all of this and talk it over with my wife.
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It has about 18K miles on it and are asking $6K.
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18K miles in 18 years? wow.

Garage kept? That's like buying a new vehicle. You should put it in a museum. Probably still has the original tires -- might want to replace those.
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On a very low mileage rig like that, you'd want to replace the timing belt immediately if it hasn't been done - so there's 700 if done by most shops. Also, the coolant may never have been changed, which is hard on freeze plugs, water pumps, radiators, etc. I might pay a premium for the low miles, but not a huge, huge one (For the reasons mentioned above) and for problems that happen due to age, rather than miles.

At least drive a 3rd gen ('96-2002) and see how you feel after that. I'm very glad I went from a 1st gen ('87) to a 1998.
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