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Old 08-25-2014, 10:40 AM
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Who will be first in the club to wheel one of these? I have to be honest, the more I look at them, the more I think this might be the ideal set up for what's available in the US today.

For starters, you can get an 09 with low miles and no nav. That's a bonus when all the 100's are coming in with 90k miles and already 7 yrs old IF you can even find an 07.

It's a narrow package with a high roof and lots of glass. Have you tried driving a new 4 runner or 4 door Wrangler? I have. Visibility stinks.

It has a V8. Even with stock 31's on the Wrangler I drove all weekend, it struggled with the hills at 10k in and around Crested Butte and Leadville. It was ok I guess, but felt very cheap all over. Crap plastic, thin metal, a transfer stick that's essentially a screw driver jammed in some open gears. It was capable sure, but really left me wanting Toyota solid construction.

Much better overhang than a 100. I love the size of the 100, but with no kids and the wife rarely wheeling with me, what's the point? Better to have a narrow and short platform for squeezing into some of those pin stripe trails like the one up to Devils punch bowl.

Tire clearance is limited for larger tires, but so is the wrangler believe it or not. The stock rocker slider on the rubicon is only about 2" away from 31's in the rear. I guess most people just trim them when they go bigger.

Air bag suspension would have to go, but let's face it, you were going to lift it anyway.

Better lights. No need to upgrade those headlights, the GX lights rock.

Bumpers? Not many options here, but let's face it, I bet you can run 90% of the good runs in Colorado and Utah with just sliders. Dan's 4 runner went all the way to the Maze in stock form, so I bet this would too.

Ok, so who will be first?
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:03 AM
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Ok, so who will be first?
a friend in SoCal just started building one. saying he loves it is an understatement.
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I'm thinking 200 but.... I followed Heather all over in her GX470 and it went everywhere I did. To be honest, it was more capable on Black Bear because of it's size.

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Old 08-25-2014, 12:53 PM
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It's a narrow package with a high roof and lots of glass. Have you tried driving a new 4 runner or 4 door Wrangler? I have. Visibility stinks.
Is this the case, since I agree 100% that the 03+ 4Runner visibility is bad. We had one for a short time and not being able to see out was one of her primary complaints. But looking at cars now it seems that's basically true of most everything. Our Mk4 Jetta ('02) has awesome visibility but the current one is terrible. I assume it's a stylistic thing going on now with the high belt lines & small windows. Right now a new(ish) Tacoma is something we're looking into and they have poor sightlines compared to my truck and IMO probably almost as bad as the 4Runner. That along with other stuff, no t-case lever for example and how impossible it is to find one with a stick to test drive, just makes me very unexcited about them.
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:03 PM
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Thats funny. I was just thinking the same thing. We have a rental Corolla right now (2013), and the friggn A pilars cut through your field of view like crazy! I can barely see where I'm turning.

I guess its a style thing. Really turns me off on a car.
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:57 PM
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Does it have the 8" rear end similar to the Tacoma/FJC/4Runner? I assume so. That would make adding a rear locker easy (with the right amount of money).

Seems like a good alternative to the 100/4Runner, but you lose the bolt on magic.
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Having seen at least 1 nicely built GX470 I can say I don't disagree.

www.adventuredriven.com has one with bumpers, drawers, lift, etc and it's super nice and quite capable.
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I'm thinking about it. My 80 hit 200K this summer and pulling a camper in 1st gear up the pass is getting old.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:12 AM
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A GX is 715lbs less than the 100. That's not insignificant when you are going up the mtns. The last GX I drove absolutely felt like a rocket compared to the 80. I know there are people that will say it isn't built as heavy duty as the 100, and it isn't, but that 715lbs is exactly why it doesn't have to be. If I remember correctly, it's also manufactured in Japan, so the build quality should be better than the 4 runners, which I believe are now made in the US.
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If I remember correctly, it's also manufactured in Japan, so the build quality should be better than the 4 runners, which I believe are now made in the US.
The 4Runner and GX470 are both still made in Japan at the Tahara plant. Same place where they used to make our older mini-truck Hilux, too. The 4Runner and GX are essentially Land Cruisers Prados. The FJ Cruiser and Tacoma are derived from the same platform, although particularly with the Taco the similarity is vague. The GX is practically the same truck as the top spec 150 Prado while the 4Runner comes in somewhere between. It's ironic that the Prado GX is the lowest spec. The quality of the 4Runner is one thing about which I don't have any doubt.
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