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Old 05-13-2011, 05:33 PM
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I kind of thought this picture with the tire up in a situation that required a couple inches of articulation wasn't the best to prove the point.
You and Schotts should have a confab! I agree, though, that is a fairly representative pic, imo, of the biggest difference between the 80 and 100, suspension-wise, anyhoo. The 80 kills the 100, in tough offroad situations, with its front suspension but the IFS of the 100 makes the truck feel absolutely nimble, in comparison, on 90% of the roads and trails on which they both will see action. And braking wise, there is simply no comparison. The 80's brakes, at their best, pale in comparison.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:10 PM
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The reality is that IFS is fine is most situations. I think you are of one of two basic camps: you either put up with some deficiencies in modern highway cruising to bet on getting in and out of anything you need to, or you figure that you should maximize the 99% of the usage you honestly experience and not worry about the exceptions.

The 80 is for the former crowd, the 100 for the latter. If I had my choice, it is a 100 with a SFA swap. But I have to say, if I am on an expedition on another continent, I am never going to be comfortable with an IFS setup. And half of enjoying such a trip is the peace of mind to be equipped to handle the unexpected.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:45 PM
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Remember that ad with the horses running, where the horse says "That's a Suzuki?!" I still think of that when I see those things..


but it's true, they do work as reported, I had its cousin the Tracker for a while
The Tracker was rockin' the rag top.

I got a kick out of these new little Suzuki's down in Costa Rica with a SFA.


The only nice thing I can say about the Vitara is that it's a world market platform - but too small for my tastes (and needs).
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:06 AM
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I've actually been quite impressed with the Grand Vitara we got for my youngest. It gets well over 30 mpg and has decent zip. It's amazing in the snow and we have had some great belly laughs in the hills when dad took it places it shouldn't have probably went but did. It really has been a surprise and fun car!
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:25 AM
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I've actually been quite impressed with the Grand Vitara we got for my youngest. It gets well over 30 mpg and has decent zip. It's amazing in the snow and we have had some great belly laughs in the hills when dad took it places it shouldn't have probably went but did. It really has been a surprise and fun car!
I had a friend get a Grand V i a g r a. He still couldn't get it up and sold it for a Jeep.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:47 AM
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No offense to my RS brothers, but this thread is way better (unless you are a fan of Schotts). It gets good on page 2, and then turns ugly by page 4.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/chit-chat-se...-congrats.html
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:32 PM
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[quote=DaveInDenver;183134]IFS is totally for chumps.

What, no pictures of you conquering the Rubicon? Slacker.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:33 PM
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Since Dave is so modest, I will post a couple of pics of him and Imelda spanking the Rubicon Trail and camping in style.
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Why don't w'all make our own list? Order and iterate your choices and don't include Toyota. BTW, I love the Merc wagons...any year.

Bias or otherwise, it is just a list on the Internet.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:44 PM
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