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Old 05-19-2011, 02:05 PM
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Default Need advice on tires for my FZJ80 from the local group...

Howdy!

New guy here - first post. Wife and I tried to meet some of you at this month's meeting - didn't realize until after the fact that it was cancelled this month, so I hope to see you all in June. I may already 'know' some of you from ih8mud (my handle there is MercFan).

My rig is a '95 Land Cruiser - completely stock - the rig is fairly new to me. It has 167K miles on it - working on base-lining it now. I don't plan on getting a high lift on the truck, though eventually I may get a set of sliders to protect my rocker panels. My interests are more in over-landing and remote site camping than difficult rock-crawling. I enjoy fishing in the front range and up in the high country so will be making weekend trips up and down front range as well as Summit Country and beyond on and off road. This rig is not my DD - I have a diesel Benz for that. This is just my weekend warrior vehicle.

I currently have a set of OEM Michelins on the truck (275/70R16) that still have fairly decent tread but the side walls are dry-rotted, so I'm thinking about replacements soon.

Wanted to ask opinions of the local crowd about the tires that might work well for my use in Front Range as well as moderate high country trails.

My hope is to hookup with you guys on at least some of the trips and do some overnight camping this summer/fall season so that's a consideration.

I'm thinking of going up to 285/75R16s in either Yoko Geolander, General Grabber or KM2s (the last one would tax the budget). I also like the GY DuraTracks but again they are expensive and I hear the side walls are soft and prone to punctures. I'd like to stay around $1000 if I could (not much more).

I've read some good posts on MUD about 255/85R16 - which might be a consideration - just don't want something that's squirley at highway speeds.

Again, hoping for some local advice on what might be a good choice on some of the intermediate CO trails.

Thx - James
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:21 PM
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I'm thinking of going up to 285/75R16s in either Yoko Geolander, General Grabber or KM2s (the last one would tax the budget). I also like the GY DuraTracks but again they are expensive and I hear the side walls are soft and prone to punctures. I'd like to stay around $1000 if I could (not much more).

I've read some good posts on MUD about 255/75R16 - which might be a consideration - just don't want something that's squirley at highway speeds.

Thx - James
Welcome! Here are a few of the more recent tire threads that have popped up here. There are some good recommendations from various folks on different tires. I've never run the 255's, but something to consider is you'll have substantially less choice in that size.


http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/foru...ad.php?t=13360

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/foru...ad.php?t=15492
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:29 PM
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The KM2 sounds like quite the outlier as a hardcore rock crawling tire.

I like the new Hankook for a well priced AT. If you are really serious about an aggressive tire but aren't rock crawling, then are you after snow performance or something else?
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:41 PM
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The KM2 sounds like quite the outlier as a hardcore rock crawling tire.

I like the new Hankook for a well priced AT. If you are really serious about an aggressive tire but aren't rock crawling, then are you after snow performance or something else?
Good points. I just went back to BFG AT KOs from KMs (old style) this week and I forgot how loud mudders are. I realized driving in this morning that I could actually hear the radio and my mirrors don't vibrate coming to stop signs. Not being a daily driver, it might be less important to James, though.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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If you are really serious about an aggressive tire but aren't rock crawling, then are you after snow performance or something else?
It may just be vanity, really... I like the look of an aggressive tire, though I doubt I'll take it that often where it's really designed to play. I do plan on playing in the snow and going into deep sand on few occasions, so it maybe be useful then.

I'll probably get a set from one of these choices:

Yokohama Geo A/T:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...5&rd=16&cs=285

Falken WildPeak:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...4856000P?mv=rr

Or Hankook AT:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...&blockType=L19
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:43 PM
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It may just be vanity, really... I like the look of an aggressive tire, though I doubt I'll take it that often where it's really designed to play. I do plan on playing in the snow and going into deep sand on few occasions, so it maybe be useful then.

I'll probably get a set from one of these choices:

Yokohama Geo A/T:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...5&rd=16&cs=285

Falken WildPeak:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...4856000P?mv=rr

Or Hankook AT:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...&blockType=L19
Vanity is a good reason

I'd personally run a more modern MT with a good snow pattern for a weekend warrior. I wouldn't discount the Duratrac - just get the road hazard warranty and carry a spare.

I'd certainly run Duratracs as soon as I'd run any AT for weekend mountain camping/fishing trips. The traction advantage over an AT when you need it will be most welcome, they are a great looking tire, and all reports is they are excellent in urban corridor winter conditions.

I think the negatives we are all hearing are in comparison to purpose built rock tires - that's not your usage and AT's don't measure up well in those comparisons, either.

Plus, a softer MT will be good for your limited mileage. Having a long tread life AT dry rotting on your truck is pretty pointless and the less miles you drive the more a softer compound will serve you well with better traction in all conditions.

Some food for thought...
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:53 PM
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We have the Yokohama Geo ATs on our 80 and I am disappointed in their snow traction. Not terrible but IMO they were actually worse than the worn out Wrangler RSAs that were on the rig before

They are reasonably quite although again louder than the Wranglers were.

The 80 never sees dirt so I can't comment on the offroad aspects of them.

If you go this route, I'd suggest getting the centers siped for snow traction. A buddy of mine with an 80 has the same tires, but siped, and raved about their snow traction. I plan to sipe mine come winter which will improve snow traction and quiet them down even more. I'm not worried about any chunking issues since this is a street truck...
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:38 PM
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I ran the BFG AT KOs on my truck before switching to Mud tires. I still run them on the other 3 Toyota trucks we have. They are a quiet tire that lasts forever, pretty good snow traction and they are fine on all the Colorado trails and Moab. That is my experiance. Rachel and Sarah wheel with these and they are fine. I wanted a more aggressive tire after wheeling in Missouri where traction in loose dirt is a problem, not so much here.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:43 PM
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Nitto Terra Grapplers. 295/75r16 will fit if you want to max out your size.

Best all around value in my opinion. Does good in most conditions. Snow, HWY, trail. Still got 16MPG on the HWY with them.

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Old 05-19-2011, 08:28 PM
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Got my replacement Nitto mounted today. So far they ave worked fine. I keep hearing more good things about the Duratracs. For the past 10 years I ran BFG ATs all over and they were fine too.
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