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Old 05-25-2011, 05:22 PM
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read the code. it's from street height! never really enforced, but yeah, I got nailed. (no pun intended)
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:05 PM
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The rules are easy, the city inspectors great, permits no big deal and little expense (unless you need to close the sidewalk because then you have to do the entire block, you pay per foot and per day and you have to rent signage). I have an engineer for you and suggest you consider some laborers and shovels. Otherwise, a small trackhoe rather than bobcat since the bobcat won't get you 36" deep (and the bucket will not allow you to "dump beyond the dig" and you will have to haul it away anyway, no?). For the extra foot of depth you will have a much more stable wall. If you can wait a bit and spend time planning, I'm sure I can help you save $$ (remember that I have built houses in Denver), but I am about to go away for two weeks and can't do much of anything till after.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:25 PM
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36" is correct and do keep the height in mind of the fence. Do you live in Denver or another county? Best thing to do is to go to the permit office and show them your drawings, they can save you money and time. If you can wait ask Daniel for his "helper " folks, it will save your back and marriage.

It sounds like you got your stuff figured out pretty well ow just the permit.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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FWIW, if you (or anyone) need engineering or architecture help both Kirsten and I are licensed professional engineers (she's a civil/structural, I'm electrical) in Colorado. Her most recent few years of experience during and after architecture school is primarily residential in Denver but before going back for her masters she did engineering on commercial buildings, transportation, etc. She worked on lots of the retaining walls along I-25 in Denver and the Springs, for example...
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
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Yeah, probably need her to at least look at the drawings. I can stamp at the office, but don't have much experience with retaining walls, and none with Denver.
6' from the street doesn't make any sense unless that's new with this year's code. My whole street has retaining walls with fences on top... I would call that a loophole. The "fence" is the portion that has air on both sides. It's not my fault my lot is higher than the street, and a 2' fence wouldn't be a fence at all. My guess is that any permitter or inspector leaves that up to interpretation, and that should be pretty clear.

Yeah, I do have to close the sidewalk when excavating...no way around that. I can get away with not closing it when building forms, but would have to close it again when doing the pour.
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I have driven a bob cat a good deal. To answer your questions. You can lift the bucket to about 7' it is tippy when you to. You can not scoop and dump without moving the machine to another location. Trying to dig down with a bobcat doesn't work well. The force of the bucket edge driving downward just isn't that great. I think a mini-ex is maybe better suited for what you're trying to do.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:50 AM
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You are correct, the code says 36" plain as day. What threw me was the foundation contractor telling me otherwise this weekend. I assumed someone doing this work for a living would know it off the top of his head, but perhaps he didn't understand my question. He may have been referring to footing width....dunno. And yes, I must have my wall permitted, stamped, and inspected. The wall itself will be 7' high at it greatest point (to bottom of footing), then a 6' brick fence on top of it.
24" is pretty standard for simple fencing depth. Like my black iron fence footers out front. For deck footers and retaining walls, I was also always told 36".

Once I used a post whole digger by my self and the thing got a way from me, spinning freely, that was a bit sketchy...Kind like a jump rope, you just gotta dive in and grab on..haha..back hoe would be way more fun!!

There is a place on South Broadway that rents that stuff...
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You know, maybe I have been thinking about this project all wrong. I'm going to wind up with 3' of "dead" space between my wall and the sidewalk because of where the property line is. I've noticed others building retaining walls all the way up to the sidewalk (in the ROW) b/c they use a engineered block that doesn't use mortar.
This has me wondering if I couldn't just build a similar wall and then dig the footing for the brick fence back at the property line. This would make the wall seem less tall, and give me some valuable planting space to break up the walls as well. Anybody know the rules on those "block" walls?
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Just got the thumbs up from the city to go ahead with the wall and 6' fence. I read the code just like everyone else to say that fences could only be 6' tall, but the "fence" is different from wall as they see it. Whew....thought I was going to have to go incognito on that one, and I have one nosy neighbor that would love to blow a whistle on me for anything he could. Old bag just needs to move on to his retirement home. (I've even played nice with him despite his rants about me moving the dumpster.
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glad to hear you got it all figured out. I have some guys that may be able to help you. PM me or call me 3o3- 8 2 9 = o7o3
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