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Old 06-28-2011, 09:31 AM
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So, we are going to add a rear seat to the 40 for the boy (and on the way). This winter we will add a full cage (most likely MT front and build out the rear middle/rear). I was wondering what is the best option for our rear seat situation?

Fold and tumble would be nice.

Toyota something would be

I'd love to add a drawer underneath the seat, or have it quickly removeable.

J&%p seats are an obvious fit... what are some of the other options?

We may go all out and tie all the seats into the cage via cradles but I haven't got that far down the road yet.

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Old 06-28-2011, 09:48 AM
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This is the one I was keen on:

Trail Max II



I forget which one was a good fit for the 40, but when I was researching a couple years ago one of the models was a good fit between the wheel wells of the 40. It folds and tumbles, has head rests for when the kids get to booster seats, but sits on the tub floor (my preference) so no storage underneath.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:54 AM
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http://www.ironpigoffroad.com//index...products_id=95

Or FZJ80 or 4th gen 4runner forward-facing jumpseats
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I've looked at this a lot Drew and STILL don't have seats in the 40 but IMO, go with the Trailmax/Bestop seat as the quick and simple plan. I think these are all pretty much the same style/design so go with what offers the best mounting position.

Something to keep in mind is height...too high and whoever sits in back might be hitting their head on the roll bar or ground

Currently I have a set of front seats out of a later model Trailblazer I think it is. Great seats because they have integrated seat belts...Not so great because they are very tall, heavy, and definitely don't fold and tumble. Plus I'd have to fab up some mounting brackets to permanently mount them. A guy on MUD PM'd me about doing this a long time ago after seeing a post I made and after some discussions with him he actually bought and mounted some seats - see thread link below

I also have a couple 2nd row seats out of a 1st gen Dodge Durango. I haven't test fit them yet but I believe with the middle "20" section cut out they will offer fold and tumble capability (individually) and fit between the wheel wells. They will need seat belts though and mounting brackets made.

I've looked into using 80 series rear jump seats in the 40 (I have posts up here and over on MUD) and IMO they really aren't an option. They are too wide so you'd either have to modify them or mount them above the wheel well level which might be too high. Of course this would give you room for a tool box - They don't fold and tumble but fold and flip up. A bonus on these though is the width which would be nice if you can make them work.

Another option is a seat out of an older Mitsubishi Montero I think it is. 3rd row possibly and it offers a fold and tumble. A 40 I looked at buying had one installed and it looked nice but I searched for a long time and never found a seat that I could buy so I gave up on this idea.

Bottom line, IMO the least expensive and quickest route is to go with an aftermarket fold and tumble seat like suggested in the above threads. Lots of other ideas but none are going to be quick and based on experience they will all end up being more expensive in the long run...I've invested $$ in the Trailblazer seats and 2 2nd rows Durango seats and still have nothing to show for it

If you are interested, I'd let you have one of the Durango 2nd row seats I have to try out...If you make it work your cost for the seat would just be duplicating what you do to make it work for me (brackets or whatever)


Some helpful threads...Maybe

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/foru...ad.php?t=14559

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/foru...ad.php?t=12775

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...ench-seat.html

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...completed.html
(Shows the Trailblazer seats installed)
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I just went through all this prior to Cruise Moab this year. I needed a seat to strap our little one in. I bit the bullet and shelled out a little extra cash for this:

CCOT Bestop bench

I liked that it was a direct bolt-in unit that fits the 40 perfectly, it folds and tumbles and it came with belts. I also liked how easy it was to install. It took about an hour and I was ready to roll.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:19 PM
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In my eternal quest to be different, I used a longer 40 jump seat, turned sideways, then supported on one side by the wheel well, the other side by a custom leg. The result was two people could sit there, forward facing, but you could also get there through the back, and around the side of the seat- you didn't have to crawl over or flip up the front seat. Since I think 40's should get hard tops and ambulance doors in the winter, this solution seemed logical to me.. was cool to toss Gavin in through the back door, let him climb up, then I reach back and buckle him in. A lot easier than flipping the front seat forward.

this setup later proved useful for larger items like strollers and pack & plays.. Just more food for thought, here's the only picture I can find..
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I pulled a Dodge Caravan seat that I'm going to try to mount in mine for the boys. It fits over the wheel wells and if it works the way I think it will, it will retain the sliding and fold/tumble capability. I've also got some 4 pt seat belts to go with.

If I ever get my garage back from my wife, I'll get it in and throw up some pictures.
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This is the one I was keen on:

Trail Max II



I forget which one was a good fit for the 40, but when I was researching a couple years ago one of the models was a good fit between the wheel wells of the 40. It folds and tumbles, has head rests for when the kids get to booster seats, but sits on the tub floor (my preference) so no storage underneath.
Bummer they don't sell direct as they are in Broomfield. However, I can get one to my door for like $250 from Summit Racing. Might be the way to go.

Does anyone know how wide the Jeeps bed are between the wheel wells? I might have to flag down a Jeep owner to find out.
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I'm in the process of watching J Kimmel build my cage & I'm using tumble/fold seats out of a Suzuki Samuri. Both seats with belts were $50 at a junk yard and I do plan on putting a box underneath. All four seats will be incooperated into the cage and the rears will be mounted above the wheel wells. 90% done with the cage and it looks as if things are going to work out perfectly. Will post pictures when done but got the idea from this guy:

http://tymp.tripod.com/seats.html

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Cool write up. I am going to go with the TJ seats I think.

I like the look, its a proven design as well. Thanks for the tip!
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