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Old 06-16-2006, 12:05 PM
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I agree with Chris that (1) You've got stuck adjusters. I had one recently that I was able to un-stick by taking the drum off, spraying liquid wrench on the threads of the adjuster, then working it with vice grips on the adjuster; (2) Replace or rebuild is even better; (3) disks are great in that (a) you don't have to deal with adjusting and (b) if you break a rear axle it won't walk out on you.

BTW, disk calipers can stick too. BTDT. Disks can fade with heat, BTDT also. And drums can be quickly dried by riding on them lightly just after your water crossing, works fine unless there's a huge hill climb on the other side of the creek. IMHO the biggest downside to disks is initial cost, they're a major chunk of change!

Matt, I did not mention in my article that some cruiser drum setups have one bleeder per wheel, yet still have two cyliders. Both cylinders are bled from a single bleeder port. My 71 has a port on each cylinder, but my 78 FJ45 has only one, even though it has two cylinders per wheel. I can't remember which setup my 76 has, it's been a while. I do know my 76 has two cylinders per wheel though. You can see the photos on my resto pages. The single cylinder per wheel setup was not introduced until 1980 when the parking brake was moved to the rear wheels with the introduction of the split case.

In any case, it sounds like your biggest issue is a leaky booster. To give you a frame of reference, I drove mine with a leaky booster for a year or two before I burned up my valve, so it's not an instant death thing. I was still able to drive home on 5 cylinders, but the little pieces of valve sound like hell rattling around in the combustion chamber! It cleaned up the carbon really well though :-/
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Old 06-16-2006, 05:45 PM
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Okay guys, thanks for the help as always One of things I love about this club is the wealth of knowledge and the willingness to share experiences, even the bad ones . Right now disc brakes are not enough of a priority for me to drop $$ on, once I get these drums figured out they'll work pretty good for my truck for now, heck even now (with or without sticking cylinders etc.) the truck brakes fine, I can lock up the tires at 50 (maybe not the MT/Rs, hope I don't have to find out on that one).

Only problem with the booster is that my dad and I disagree on how long it's been acting like this. I think it's been like this since we owned it (1.5 years), and before that who knows? My dad thinks it developed since we owned it, but neither of us can really pin down an approximate time. Well Sunday should be the last time I have to drive it on a bad booster, Monday I think I'm going to go get a different one that hopefully works. I'll have whoever's on the run check it out one last time for me though
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:33 PM
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Well I went to the Yota Yard and exchanged for a different booster today. It doesn't really feel much different than the other one, so I don't know? The guy at the yard was saying that these things don't go bad too often, so if two feel pretty much the same I'm having a hard time believing they're both dead?

Anyway, idle doesn't change or anything on first press of pedal, but if you pump it two or three times and hold it then the idle gets rough. My two shoes on the bottom of the drums are still frozen, we got some liquid wrench on them today, I think they're going to take a while. But I think my current pedal travel, which is considerable, is from those two shoes not being adjusted closer to the drum and taking a fair amount of brake fluid to make contact. I think once I get them adjusted it's going to be sweet! The truck already stops quick with one press of the pedal, and the booster is definitely doing something because I don't have to push too hard, so now I don't have to try and run red lights for fear of not being able to make a quick safe stop
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