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Old 12-20-2011, 05:57 PM
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Default Thinking About An 80 or LX 450

We are thinking about a new ride for the in 2012

The old Camry is getting, well, old.

We were talking about possibly replacing it. When I asked her what she would like to look at for possible replacements, she said she'd like an 80 so we could road trip in comfort to do some family caliber camping/wheeling.

I am thinking that she might like some of the blingy touches of an LX as opposed to an 80. I am thinking a clean, light colored, mildly built, locked LX or 80.

We are not ready to pull the trigger on a new ride yet, but I wanted to solicit the collective RS mind about what to look for/at when considering this platform.

I imagine there maybe different threads already in exisitence on this topic, so feel free to point me in that direction if there are some good resources that I should consider. I guess this means that I have to read Root's Ptarmigan thread!

Please share the good, the bad, the ugly! Any observations about this platform that would help us make up our mind that this is the right ride for the and my little guy would be most appreciated!

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:07 PM
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Before you know it your going to be selling your 40, just like the rest of them!

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:40 PM
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The reason the hundy guys wont respond to this thread is because he still owns a 40!
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:46 PM
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Yeah, he's probably right. If you're looking for comfort over capability, the 100 series is seriously worth a look.

If you do buy an 80 (and I love mine, but it ain't a comfort ride anymore), my first piece of advice would be to walk away from any that don't have the factory lockers. Just. Walk. Away. My second piece of advice would be to focus on 1995-1997 model years in case you want to add a supercharger at some point.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:56 PM
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If its going to be a family rig first, buy a 100. Its getting harder to find nice 80's for that kind of duty. Plus the 100 will make a nicer DD anyway. That said I still love my 80 and don't plan to give it up any time soon. By then 200's will be affordable
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:58 PM
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Will you be towing anything on a regular basis? If so, I'd suggest looking at the 100 series because honestly the 80/LX450 is a gutless wonder - unless you SC them that is.

As for the 80 vs. the LX - Honestly there isn't that much difference. The LX has the body cladding which some like and some hate. The LX has softer leather, upgraded stereo (stock form anyway), CD changer, auto climate control, a different grille and headlight shape, and that is about it. The Anniversary Edition (AE) 80 series and I think the Collectors Edition (CE) have the auto climate control as well. That said, the auto climate control isn't really much to write home about.

In stock form the 80 will get about 12mpg around town and maybe 16 on the highway. My LX450 gets 10-12mpg in mixed driving. So gas mileage is pretty much crappy

I'd suggest having the drive the 80 series and the 100 series...I wouldn't rule out the '97 and older Sequoias either if your plans won't envolve serious wheeling.

Lots of threads on MUD and here etc. on the differences between the various years of the 80 and 100 series. Slee has a nice write up on his site. IMO on the 80 series I'd look for a '95-'97. On the 100 series, it becomes more of a budget issue...
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:19 PM
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Uncle Ben's right, get a 100 series.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:43 AM
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Finding an 80 or daily driver duty is kinda tough now days because they all seem to be high mileage. I thought about it myself, but... even though it's a Land Cruiser, I just don't like the idea of taking long trips in something with 250,000 miles on it.

I say 100 series too. Stay away from the Lexus 100 though, it's got a face only a diehard could love

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Old 12-21-2011, 11:49 AM
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I guess this is the current trend on the forum - all about the 100's.

Regardless of 80 or 100, if it's a DD you're probably going to be interesting as low a mileage rig you can find that has a good supply of history and maintenance records. A truck with 180k and a good history is probably better than something with 130k and an unknown maintenance schedule. For an 80, some things you'll want to look for:

- good maintenance of the cooling system. Blue fan clutch upgrade
- front axle rebuild history/leaky knuckles (just like a 40, 55 or 60)
- oil leaks on the front of the block or at the oil pan
- PHH (pesky heater hose) condition. Swollen, cracked or leaking?
- Rust issues underneath or on tail gate or hatch
- Paint on hood and roof fading and deteriorating
- interior leather cracked, hard, ripped
- 3rd row seats?
- Head gasket replaced?

The 80 has no head rest in the middle seat and only a lap belt, so if you use it as a kid hauler that might be an issue. Both of the 3rd row seats have head rests and lap belts. Sliding rear windows are very popular with the canines

That should get you started on some things...
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:17 PM
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Good stuff you all, I appreciate it.
I did venture into the (gasp) 80 section on MUD and found some links.

I hear the comments about go for the 100 series. Can you all give me some reference points on what pricepoints to expect for a decent 80 vs. 100?

Budget is an issue unfortunately, so I am not sure about going for a 100.

One other rig that catches my eye is the Excursion, PowerStroke. Newer than the 80, power, and could tow the 40 or 55 to some wheeling while holding a bunch of camping crap. Any thoughts on this idea?

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