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Old 05-05-2015, 11:16 AM
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Default No More DuraTrac -To BFG KO2 OR Coop SST?

So Moab claimed another Duratrac (hard to call these Dura anything, traction=yes but 'Dura', not so much). Pasture took a sidewall in November, the exit of Hell's Revenge grabbed another last week. (plugged it and headed for camp)

Best close match I could find in Moab (my spare was an old BFG and I wanted to have more fun that that would allow) was a Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX.

Now that I'm home and my local store is standing behind the Goodyear's I'm trying to decide if I should buy 5x BFG AT KO2's or 4 more of the Cooper ST MAXX. (If I go BFG I'll have a near new Cooper for sale)

These will be 285/75-16 E range.

Looks like the BFG's are about 59lbs/ and the Coopers 55lbs.

I need excellent winter/wet/ice traction on the best 'wheelin tire I can get, the Goodyears came close other that the crap sidewalls.

Any tips or opinions? Which way shall I go? Coopers would be cheaper by a bit...
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:47 AM
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Just make sure your next set has 3 sidewall plys....Duratracs have two.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:01 PM
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I personally think the coopers are much better. Their road manners are far better than duratracs. I've used them at 18psi in fresh deep snow on the trail and at 14 psi in Moab just now. They never ever skipped a beat and I was confident that I wouldn't be sidelined by a sidewall. Also I noticed on the long golden spike trail that has so much driving at an angle. At slow speed crawling along I could see and hear the tread that wraps the side of the tires contacting the rock as it was grabbing...also I didn't spin tire coming out if any water onto rock and my tires look fine after 3 good days in Moab. The duratracs always seemed to show wear after a trip but then again I had to spin them sometimes..I haven't used them on the highway on ice but I suspect they'll be fine.

Thank goodness for 3 ply sidewall

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Old 05-05-2015, 12:31 PM
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Love my KO2's. They did really well in the ice and snow this past winter, and were awesome on the trail too. They are heavy, which is a downside.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:35 PM
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I'm very happy with my Coopers as well. I had a set of STT's, and now I'm running the ST Maxx. I'd vote for one of these two depending on which tread you prefer. The STT's chunked a lot and were loud, but served the purpose. The ST Maxx's by comparison are quiet on the road (for the type of tire they are), did great over the winter, and with a little over 10,000 miles they still look brand new. The ST Maxx makes a great mixed-use tire for a "dual sport" Cruiser. I'll probably buy another set when I'm done with these.
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I've got the Cooper STTs on my 80 and they've been great. You should get them in the 37" size.
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I've got the Cooper STTs on my 80 and they've been great. You should get them in the 37" size.
After wheeling with Burt88 a few times I'm thinking 39.5" is the way to go...



Great points all, I'm starting to lean toward cooper due to the cost savings and desire to try new stuff.
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Just looking at the 2 tread designs the KO2's look like they would do better in snow and ice. Offroad they have been proven good over the years. The cooper's tread doesn't look like it has enough siping and will suffer in icy conditions. BFGs just work and wear well. If you got the KO2s siped by discount tire along with the factory siping they already have they would probably be incredible on and offroad.
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I've run a lot of tires over the years, mainly what I find on CL for the right price, but my favorite tire by far for all around use, snow, ice, blacktop, rocks is BFG's. They wear nice, there tough as nails, and they grip well off road. If I had to pick a down side to their tires it would be in the mud. The tread on most of their tires don't clean out the mud as well as I would like, but I'm talking about east coast style deep mud bogs wheeling. Most Colorado mud holes are not an issue and few and far between.
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I've run a lot of tires over the years, mainly what I find on CL for the right price, but my favorite tire by far for all around use, snow, ice, blacktop, rocks is BFG's. They wear nice, there tough as nails, and they grip well off road. If I had to pick a down side to their tires it would be in the mud. The tread on most of their tires don't clean out the mud as well as I would like, but I'm talking about east coast style deep mud bogs wheeling. Most Colorado mud holes are not an issue and few and far between.
BFG AT or MT? Assuming you are talking about AT based on the mud comments...
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