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Old 06-24-2014, 09:40 PM
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yea you're right.
going to be tough to get water to the oil cooler with that upper t-stat housing

Just checked my parts piles and all I could find were earlier t-stat housings...
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:00 PM
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Thanks jeff!!
I just found one in my pile
Also found the right egr pipe that screws into the exhaust manifold rather than the two bolt style
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:28 PM
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So still picking away at this. Once the EGR comes back from the coater I'll bolt that on and be done with the engine and ready to take it off the stand and bolt up the bellhousing, flywheel, clutch, transmission and t-case then put it in the car.

This was the last major hurdle, finding usable manifolds and egr components and getting them prepped.

I took the manifolds and got them sandblasted, then sprayed the exhaust manifold with 1500 degree paint.

I just cleared the intake with 1500 degree clear.

then like a lot of the threads I researched, they weren't flat, and also the moutning bosses from intake to exhaust didn't line up quite right.

I elected to take the manifolds paired together and get them milled down (really sanded down) flat at spitfire auto off of 64th and federal. They had to take a lot off.

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I was concerned about the offset, but further reading led me to a good solution.
Rover67 has a lot of good input spread around I read.

1. mill them flat bolted together
2. leave the 3 bolts on the top that bolt them together loose
3. leave the 2 nuts on the studs on the bottom loose.
4. get it bolted up onto the head as lined up as possible
5. tighten down the 3 bolts and 2 nuts holding the manifolds together after its torqued and in place on the head.

you can see how much the holes were offset:

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Old 07-09-2014, 11:37 PM
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I used new OEM hardware even though the bolts on the bottom are 'new style'. It was all still available so I bought it and used it.

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The heat riser on this manifold still was in good shape and worked flawlessly after sandblasting.

the insulator was still availalbe as well as the twin gaskets above and below the insulator.
the insulator is concave so as to allow the 'sweep' of the heat riser itself up from the exhaust into the intake, it is possible to mount it upside down, but it will be obvious because the heat riser will 'hit' the insulator if its upside down, so the concave section goes 'up' into the intake.

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I was able to get the two upper offsets pretty close and the washer made good contact with both recessed surfaces and it torqued down flat.

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pretty hapy with this little finished section of this project.


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so now its just the egr, then off the stand it comes and on to the next section of bolting it all together and putting it in the truck. The egr should be ready next week.

I saw the back surgeon Tuesday.
I have seen imrpovement with the pain levels since the initial injury
so he said no surgery if its improving on its own is his preference and to take it easy. So the progress while slow up to this point may be slower. I'd still like to get it to the rally but that seems ambitious at this point.

we'll see
thanks for looking


edit: sorry for all the minutia, I am trying to write down with pictures all of the junk I have had to spend a lot of time researching to figure out. maybe one day it will help someone, I realize this is pretty basic stuff for most of the people here, but its not basic for everyone and certainly hasn't been very intuitive for me.

Cheers!
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:44 AM
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... edit: sorry for all the minutia, I am trying to write down with pictures all of the junk I have had to spend a lot of time researching to figure out. maybe one day it will help someone, I realize this is pretty basic stuff for most of the people here, but its not basic for everyone and certainly hasn't been very intuitive for me. ...
The detail is great stuff . It is enjoyable (to me) to follow your progress and see the pictures and read the specifics you detail. I am confident that others will benefit from your documenting efforts in this thread.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:26 AM
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I agree with Ricardo. Don't apologize for the minutia, that's what makes it interesting. Nice build Mike!
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:30 AM
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I haven't had my manifolds apart in many years - good photos and reminders of what's going on inside there. Nice to see that some of the OEM parts are still available.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:34 PM
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That's a good lookin' motor. Wanna trade?
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sorry for all the minutia
Don't apologize, this is going to help someone. I had probably done manifolds 3-4 times before I figured out the trick of leaving the intake loose from the exhaust, torquing down the nuts/bolts and THEN tightening the intake and the exhaust together.

A word of caution to n00bs too - because the intake is made of aluminum and the fasteners are made of steel, it is all too easy to strip the threads on the intake if the fasteners are overtightened. Then you have to helicoil them. DAMHIK.
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Old 07-14-2014, 01:14 AM
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This is why we can't have nice things.

Literally the last step..
Adjusted the valves then went about the business of putting in the distributor.

Found tdc compression of #1
Put new points in and new rotor
Put dizzy in with 1 pointed toward #4 plug..
Turned crank a little dizzy went in. (Hard to find 7dgr btdc with no flywheel..still waiting on some stuff from $OR for flywheel and clutch)

Turned engine over a few rotations..rotor did its thing.
Figured I was good. Last rotation it got chunky. .weird
Then rotor stopped rotating.

Stopped.
Tried pulling dizzy..it was stuck solid..and I mean stuck. Would not come out.

Pulled pan..could not remove oil pump the dizzy and pump were jammed together.

Noticed cam gear that drives dizzy had two chipped teeth.

Finally pulled pump apart pulled out drive gear to get to bottom of dizzy shaft through the pump..
Had to beat the living crap out of it through the pump to get dizzy free from pump. Best guess is some chunk of the teeth fell into the shaft locking the pump and distributor together

So now I have a ruined pump distributor and cam.

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Clearly I did something wrong.
So will order more parts and tear it down and do the cam
Put it back together then put flywheel in and stab distributor using flywheel marks...
And possibly wait for some very experienced assistance next time I stab the distributor.

If I didnt know better I would swear this thing wants some lame 307 wheezing two barrel v8 living under its hood.
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