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Old 03-22-2012, 09:03 AM
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I think mine had a switched 12v, i'll check tonight. our wiring should be similar..
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:50 PM
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I think mine had a switched 12v, i'll check tonight. our wiring should be similar..
I'd be curious if you have one.. I am going to try one more time to poke into something on the tail light circuit, but if I can't get it will punt and just find something that's switched on when the motor's running, just to get on with life.


I'm still trying to figure out in my head how this wiring works. It's like everything is on all the time, with one opening in the circuit and that's at the switch- so flipping the switch "on" just closes that? I can measure 12v going to the tail light, 12v at the horn itself, 12v in the blinker wire... all with the switch set to "off." what do I know, maybe that's a better way to wire things.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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??
Does KTM use sinking switching? (ground on close)
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:56 PM
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Could be. I found even more wires in the stock harness that are +12v with the bike off. Did find one that would flip on when the bike is running, it was running to the headlight. I then measured there what I had seen in the old light, which is about 6v output while the bike is idling, and even less when running. So I tried to run that as my relay feed hoping that's enough juice to trip it, but alas no, it only works about part of the time at idle, then not all all while riding, then just as you turn the bike off the lights come on.

My new theory is something's not happy with that new stator & regulator upgrade... but dang the bike sure runs well, and the battery seems to be getting charged, and there's no return on electrical parts at Sun, so IOW point of no return here. I think my next step is unhook the little running light bulb altogether, then I can bypass the relay and just use the switch for the lights, hot from the battery, and not have that little light run me down. At least then I can ride the bike and have lights, still not ideal though obviously but will get me by until someone smarter than me wants to do additional electrical probing.

edit: I'm also annoyed at how I had to extend my bump stop on the left, to keep from smashing the horn. Don't notice while riding, but pushing it around the garage, etc. I do.. so that horn is going somewhere else too. ugh.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:07 PM
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You will notice the bump stop as soon as you try to ride single track. relocate the horn.
FWIW. My lights only work when bike is running.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:13 PM
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welp, looks like I was mistaken...

my lights works either with the motor on or off
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I'm done. I bypassed the relay and took the bulb out of the running light, everything works now. It isn't perfect but I'm over it, need to work on other things... the only other thing that bugs me is how ugly all those wires are crammed in there behind the headlight, would like to stare at a couple other of you's wiring to see how you've got all that bundled. Good project for Utah... and we can poke further into the wiring in Utah too for that matter.
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Stator upgrade, eh? A few stator upgrades trade low RPM voltage for higher RPM current output. Some are wound differently for both current and voltage at lower output. You might be seeing something like that.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:09 AM
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Tim, is yours street legal yet? Or is the headlight part of the making it legal process?
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:39 AM
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Yes street legal, I have current plates & a title in my name.

I bought a bike with a fairly poor headlight and no tail light or brake light that didn't run well.

That turned into a bike that runs great (carb cleaning, jet kit, new stator & regulator) with resulting no headlight.

I also now have as new turn signals and horn and a working tail light and brake light. I have essentially installed a full dual sport kit, compared to what I purchased which was just a headlight. Only piece left there is a switch on the front brake caliper, which is on the bench next to some new DOT4 fluid- the wire is already running down the fork.

So as of last night I have a bike that runs great, full tail/brake lights, turn signals, electric horn, and a great running new headlight- the latter wired direct to the battery. So I've got one switch next to my right thumb that turns on the tail lights/horn/turn signals, and a light switch for my left thumb that runs independently of the first that will flip on lo or hi beam on the headlight. Either one can run w/o the bike running, and both need to be turned off manually lest I will find myself without e-start capability. I have come up empty on my attempt to find any switched 12v wire into which to incorporate a relay.

I also have a somewhat irritated who is tired of the 8:00-midnight shifts in the garage every night this week... however she's got a movie night tonight with her friends, so I'm gonna get that front switch hooked up and both brakes bled with new fluid.
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