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Old 07-23-2012, 11:24 AM
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What's the issue? I put one in my 80, but I guess I didn't keep it around long enough to find the bad side effect?
Yeah, I've got them on the LX and so far so good...It is coming up on 2 years now I think

I remember reading some not so positive opinions shortly after installing them and thinking

I was bummed that I bought those and his install tool BEFORE it was figured out that the install tool didn't work for the 80 series seals
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:31 AM
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Interesting, I use them in the Chili's rear axles. Had quite an issue with short lived front seals back there. Put Marlin seals in, and voila! no more issues.

(The Front Range full floater kit uses Toyota front axle parts... hence the seals)

They do require some modification to work in my application but that wouldn't affect their effectiveness... if anything, it would degrade it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:08 PM
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I will find them for you Tuesday morning Steve.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:23 PM
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What's the issue? I put one in my 80, but I guess I didn't keep it around long enough to find the bad side effect?
they leak (at least they did for me), and let 90 wt into the birf for a gooey mixture of grease and 90wt.. i noticed 90wt leaking past the wiper seals onto the tire when it sat for a week....

i run full synthetic oil in the diff's, so it may have been a factor, but no issues since putting in the OEM inner seals....

Also have a set of them for my 4runner, but have not tried them yet... Sounds like Bill and others have had luck with them on other vehicles..
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Everything ive heard is that they cause grooving on the 80s because of the full.time 4wd and the fact that the seal will stay constant on the shaft and not have looser spots as the shaft turns
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just did some searching on Mud, and found several posts that talk about this..
The line of thought is that the OEM seals are more flexible and work better on the AWD 80's... The Marlin seals are stiffer, and appear to work well on the 40's and 60's part time applications...

One Quote:
"I like the Marlin type for the earlier rigs, but prefer the flexibility of the stock one on the '80. "

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...k-rebuild.html
entry #7
http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...uild-kits.html
entry #5

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...-confused.html
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Everything ive heard is that they cause grooving on the 80s because of the full.time 4wd and the fact that the seal will stay constant on the shaft and not have looser spots as the shaft turns
x2. Next birf service I will be replacing axles due to the groove. The grooving in the Marlin seal spot is much deeper after far fewer miles than where the OEM seal rode.
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Bummer. I recently noticed one of mine has a minor leak - a bit of oil on the lower knuckle studs. I rebuilt it a couple of years ago with Marlin seals.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:01 PM
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x2. Next birf service I will be replacing axles due to the groove. The grooving in the Marlin seal spot is much deeper after far fewer miles than where the OEM seal rode.
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Bummer. I recently noticed one of mine has a minor leak - a bit of oil on the lower knuckle studs. I rebuilt it a couple of years ago with Marlin seals.
That will suck if all the 80 owners that put in Marlin seals have to start replacing axles due to excessive grooving
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